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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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i have been searching and reading about block guard and block posting. it seems like the main concern with block guard is overheating? what does everybody think? i would rather do posting? can i do that myself..i have access to machine shop. do i need it to run 1bar?

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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overheating depends on the block guard. srp is supposed to have a good one. i was gonna do the posting with my block. saw some pics of it done from endyn and it looked just like rods they inserted and jb welded it. posing secures more of the cylinder and allows greater cooling flow than the guard.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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when is endynes forum gonna be back up? anyone know anything about it?
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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Default Re: block posting or block guard? (TinyCRX)

A properly installed blockguard (hammering it in doesn't count) with adequate cooling passages will work well.

Posting the block uses studs that support the sleeves at 3 different locations.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 06:23 AM
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is getting the block posted something that most shops can do? or is it something that is mainly done with honda's only? can i do it myself? i have access to a machine shop.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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You can do it yourself if you have a machine shop. You need an accurate way of measuring and drilling the holes for the posts.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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How much would a shop charge to do this? is posting good enuf by it self or do you need to combine it with a guard?
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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can this be done with any engine or only the b16
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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I am doing it on a D16A1.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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do you round the posts to match the cylinder or do you cut them straight off and slide them tight against the cylinder wall?
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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The post is chamfered on the side that touches the cylinder. It's a 3/8" post that's perfectly flat.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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I think Zdyne does it for around $300. I think that's what they did for that 27 psi daily d supercharged civic hatch that was in Hot Rod....
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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does anybody have the link for the pictures of the block posting on http://www.theoldone.com? I searched through the site today and couldn't find them.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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Endyn charges $400 to do the posting. That's the price Larry gave me over the phone. He encouraged me to do it myself and save a lot of money. He gave me all of the info about how to do it. The local machine shop is drilling/tapping the holes in the block. A friend of mine is making the posts and I'll be installing/sealing them. The cost of doing it this way is $100.

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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Posting's only aroung 300 bucks from Zdyne and supposedly can take 20+ psi....
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Are you sure you don't have ENDYN and ZDYNE mixed up? ZDYNE makes standalone engine management systems. I don't think they post blocks, but who knows...

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 07:45 PM
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sonny, could you please email me the directions for posting it yourself instead of sending it out? i'm pretty sure i understand it now. not 100% on the exact shape of the 3/8" posts. but i do understand that they are still cut straight and not shaped to the cylinder walls....thanks for all your help. Paul
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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Paul:

I'll have some pics and more info later in the week. I wanna make sure that the initial part of it is successful.

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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 05:41 AM
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thanks sonny, i really appreciate it.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 06:06 AM
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great info guys can you just post the directions?
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 06:21 AM
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Sonny, are you going to shift the yellow ones up so they are above the stiffening web?



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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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I have to learn more bout this? Ill be back on later got to dip with my girl
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 09:59 AM
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Paul:

I'll have some pics and more info later in the week. I wanna make sure that the initial part of it is successful.

Sonny
Please do. I need to do my bottom end and really cant afford GE sleeves yet. This would be a nice project I can do myself!!
Good info, but need more
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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does anybody have any pictures of this done already? I'm trying to explain this to some people and they don't have a clue what i'm talking about. Thanks you guys.
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 03:07 PM
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Yeah finished pictures would be nice.
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