bb6kid22

after talking to a tuner today about my set up, he was very against the b16a

my set up is
B16a block - honed and decked all new bearings ever seal has been replaces
JE 10.5:1 pistons
Eagle H-beam rods ARP rod bolts
ARP heads studs
Type-r head - decked
Super tech retainers
Super tech dual valve springs
Type-r cams
New Honda oem valve seals
Ferrea valves
Vented valve cover -10an fittings with custom catch can
Aem fuel rail
Aem fuel regulator
Fuel clinic 1000cc injectors
Inline fuel filter
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Skunk2 intake manifold
74mm blox throttle body
Half size radiator and slim fan

Turbo kit:
Garrett .60 t3/t67 .82 exhaust v-band NO shaft at all
3” boost piping
31x11x3 bar and plate intercooler
Tial bov
Tial 44mm wastegate
Top mount manifold
3” exhaust v-band

i told him i wanted to put about 350-400 to the wheels, yes i know it has stock sleeves but i figured it would still be able to handle it

he told me that 50% of the time b16a's fail with over 300 horsepower and they tend to burn oil and leak, after searching b16a handle more power on the stock block than the b18c does, he was praising that motor telling me i should have built it instead, etc

i just wanted to see what honda-tech has to say about running 350-400 whp on that set up, i wouldnt drive it hard at all, i would just want the power when i need it

was he just a b16a hater or did he shed some truth? much help is appreciated, i want it to be a pretty reliable set up with that much power

turbociv910

i made 420 on my STOCK b16 only with head studs. w peakboost 3076r kit and is still going...motec m4 ecu, t1 cop setup, e98/toulene fuel mixture. dont smoke or burn oil. runs 10s on a good track

sucks you built your motor for 350 whp

Find a new tuner.

SO.GA_SI

Same here, STOCK B16, ebay 60-1, gsr tranny, Q16, 22 psi about 420whp runs 10.90's at 132 with 1.72 60ft's. at the track almost every weekend seen about 20 dyno pulls and 50-60 passes in the last 4 months

2k.civic.si

find another tuner....tuners tune...they dont have opinions....just tune it right and shut up or dont make money.
the b16 is a great motor to boost....so is the b18c.

bb6kid22

thanks guys, i actually got rid of the aem ems and picked up hondata s300

i feel better about my set up!

boosted_b16a2

i just tuned my b16a2 with a gsr head. same setup but i have sleeve block. i made allitle over 500hp with e85 on a 6262. the only small problem i ran into is that the b16 strock is 77mm VS gsr is at 87mm and LS is at 89mm. and it makes it just a tab bit harder to make torque with such a small strock. but yeah you need a new tuner. just my 2 cents

cleansi

ive been to tuners all over the country and in other countries and they all have there own opinion to what they think. some think they are Paul walker wannabees i love it they think there god.
i made 502whp on my b16. most tuner are happy for me.
i guess he might be just giving you advise about having it built safely and doing it the correct way so you can have peace of mind but in the end he is only there to take your money and do the job not to criticize your set up.

Hondaruss

B16a
Stock Sleeves
Victor X Intake Mani
Wiseco Pistons
Crower I Beam Rods
Block Guard
PTE 880cc Injectors
Aem fuel Rail
Walbro 255
B&M FPR
Garrett 60-1 S-cover anti surge housing
Turbonetics Evolution WG
AFI Ramhorn Manifold
HKS SSQ
3" Down Pipe
Stock head

Hp in is in Sig.

And i BEAT the sin out of my car.. It held just fine.. Alot of it has to do with the tune also... Sounds like he's a hater on the b16

http://www.streetfire.net/video/lima...-on_141272.htm

please keep in mind this was 2 years ago this vid was shot . I have gotten older ans wiser since then

Garage 808 Hatch

like they said, find another tuner

Professor_X

lol why would b16s tend "to burn oil and leak"

anyway... say no more https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/600whp-stock-block-b16-build-2840863/

TJChad

Sounds to me like a tuner that wants to blame his shoddy work on "bad engines" Any engine can suck it it's not built right or not tuned right. B16's are kick ***, I don't care what anyone says i'm old school. I'm building the hell outta one right now. If you have yours built right, your clearances correct, proper parts, and a great tune then you wont have a lick of trouble.

rs250nut

Isnt that turbo a bit big for 350-400hp?

bb6kid22

its rather large yes, im only running 300-400 while dd'ing it, once i buy a beater and get it sleeved im shooting for 600 or 700

thanks for the input guys

flatblackhatch

didnt someone just make 600 on a stock b16?

flatblackhatch

crap there it is

Schister66

Your goals are within reason...I would find another tuner who is more comfortable making the power you want to make.

rs250nut

The guy did make 600 on the dyno but dd's it at around 450, still bloddy impressive either way.

AlexDphoto

tell him honda-tech says hes stupid. go somewhere else before he blows your car up.

flatblackhatch

/\/\/\/\....WIN

Tootsie7944

well well look who it is! How ya been haha

turbociv910

lol at tell him honda-tech said your're stupid.. lol

Schister66

Lol...one of the better quotes i've heard in a while

flatblackhatch

I've been good how you doing and hows the car running

ek3turbo

he sound like he only can tune car with build internals?? get another tuner yu might get more power with stock internals on b16 with a good fuel tune and a p28 chipped