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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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http://www.turbooptions.com/cncdesig...d&productId=13

I guess its a block gaurd machined for that specific block. any experience with them please comment. thanks
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Put an additional steel band around a regular tire, only 1" wide. Inflate to 1000psi. What do you think will happen?

Block guards don't fail because they don't make contact, they fail because the sleeve itself a crack regardless. Ask Hotrex (realhomemadeturbo.com) about his devcon block guard failure. He poured in over an inch of devcon epoxy into a b18b block, and a few weeks later still cracked a sleeve. It didn't go anywhere on top, but blew a nice hole in the sleeve below.

The other failure of a blockguard'd block will be blowing the HG. The sleeve will still flex on top, breach the seal, and once disrupted, you can never fully reseal a MSL HG.


Originally Posted by that weblink
Do it right or do it twice!!!!!!!
LOL @ their own words.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HiProfile
Put an additional steel band around a regular tire, only 1" wide. Inflate to 1000psi. What do you think will happen?

Block guards don't fail because they don't make contact, they fail because the sleeve itself a crack regardless. Ask Hotrex (realhomemadeturbo.com) about his devcon block guard failure. He poured in over an inch of devcon epoxy into a b18b block, and a few weeks later still cracked a sleeve. It didn't go anywhere on top, but blew a nice hole in the sleeve below.

The other failure of a blockguard'd block will be blowing the HG. The sleeve will still flex on top, breach the seal, and once disrupted, you can never fully reseal a MSL HG.




LOL @ their own words.
You speak with such confidence about something you have never seen or tried, going on the word of someone who had such a poor tune that he ended up cracking below the epoxy. Hello!!!! That means the epoxy did its job. This is not a bullet proof fix like ductile iron sleeves. If you detonate hard enough, the sleeve will still break. There are still thousands of builders who are going to use blockguards because there cheaper, no matter how many time you call them stupid because ductile iron sleeves are not in the budget, but a turbo kit which makes 400hp is. This is a good alternative for those guys. It just does what a blockguard is suppose to do. Give some security for the 400hp daily drivers. A typical blockguard can not do this because of inconsistancies with stock castings.

Civic89stdB16: To answer your question, there are only a dozen people up here in the NH, MA area running them and none are running over 400hp at this time. Its a brand new process and I don't push it because there are so many people who have never seen it but feel they know everything about it.

If its something you want to try over a blockguard I'll put a guarantee on it. If you crack the sleeve within 60days I'll riemburse you the cost of the process.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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is that the price on the website for it to be shipped to u and back also. if not whats the cost of that. thanks
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Civic89stdB16
is that the price on the website for it to be shipped to u and back also. if not whats the cost of that. thanks
I think the shipping is extra.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Anyone used this before.

Originally Posted by HiProfile
Put an additional steel band around a regular tire, only 1" wide. Inflate to 1000psi. What do you think will happen?
Actually a very horrible example of what a block guard does. Blockguards reinforce the top of the sleeve where the piston reaches peak compression. This is where the sleeve is at its highest stress point. Whereas the tire spreads the stress over a large area evenly.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Regardless bad or good example there are so many cons with block guard

You want to do it right first time - use dartons or etc sleeves.

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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Anyone used this before.

dayem too bad we haven't seen to many of these blocks around! would of been a heck of a deal if they have been proven to held up good!
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