GEN2 LS

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To make a long story short, had a run in with a drunk driver came out the accident with only minor cuts and got a decent amount of money and what better way to spend it than on a new setup!!!! I only have one issue and that is trying to stay within my $5k range without going over. So what approach should I take?

Sleeved motor/ and skimp on nice turbo parts or vice versa. I already added up most things and in the motor alone I would have about $3k including pistons,rods,bearings,gaskets etc etc. HELP.........:/


I want a 450-500hp street car and rock solid realiablity.

JO TECH

Buy a Peakboost turbo kit
CP pistons
eagle rods
P28 crome
head stuts
GE head gasket

Have fun....

GEN2 LS

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I lost faith in stock sleeves:p

komat

get it built and sleeved for $3300 at laskey
make your own turbo kit with some used parts for $1700

omiehomie

x10! call laskey and ask for mike he will personally take care of you

accordking

Mike Laskey all the way.........

96 GSR-T

I dont see all this being done for $5k, there is still engine management (can cheap out and use Crome), fuel, clutch, tuning, exhaust etc etc etc

If you want rock solid (well that word IMO should never be used with aftermarket stuff) you need to stick to NA because "rock solid" and "boosted honda" combined with "5k" is rather hard to do.

Fast, Reliable, Cheap pick 2 because you cant have all 3. For a few more bucks you can do it right and have a decent amount of reliability.

d16z6Tcrx

yea 5k and a built turbo motor dont mix. with 5k i can build a sick all motor setup and include everything.

if your heart is set for boost go stock gsr and AFI street series kit. but you'll still have to come out of pocket for some kind of tunning.

92redhatch

Sleeve the motor and build it all the right way. Later save money for a turbo kit

d16z6Tcrx

whats the "right" way?

96 GSR-T

the right way is not buying someone elses cheap 3rd hand junk in a rush to complete a car and make it reliable on a budget, old turbo's **** seals, cheap manny's crack etc etc

hybrdthry911

450-500whp reliably and 5k dollars dont mix too well. if you built the motor yourself you are looking at around 2700 in parts, that leaves 2300 for ems, clutch, injectors, fuel pump, map sensor, tuning, the turbo kit.

what kind of car and engine do you have already, and do you have anything as far as fuel or clutch already on the car?

HiProfile

I'd definately suggest saving up a bit if you're having someone else build the motor. It's amazing how much more it costs to do a dinky I4 vs similar parts in a V8. That's one thing my V8 friends can seriously laugh at me about.

I hate to try convincing you to not get sleeves, but if you were to see a 350whp civic race a 500whp civic on street tires & normal pavement - you probably would reconsider. The last sub-400hp engine I saw crack a sleeve was because the owner thought it was 9:1, but was really 11:1 and the tuner didn't tune via detonation - basicly just with AFR's on a basemap.


So for $5k you HAVE to skimp on something... for now. I'd suggest building the motor to your heart's content, getting someone's used turbo kit (lots availible with this economy), getting a basic tune - then saving up for whatever you consider the ideal turbo kit. You can always resell a used kit for virtually no loss, but every time you open the engine it will cost something.

One last thing is you may want to look into the Magnuson SC kit that rmcdaniels is helping design. The blower is good to 4-500whp, and would be an insane street ride. Maybe a bit noisey, but they know how to add ports to the case to quiet it down.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/anyone-interested-500-whp-supercharger-kit-1997913/

92redhatch

Send the block to ERL and get it sleeved. Send the head to get ported, and build the block. Run it n/a until you have money saved for a decent turbo kit.

LightningTeg

I say do a Piston rod build for 1500 and spend the other 3500 on nice turbp bits.

GEN2 LS

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well I am local to RLZ, so I was gonna send the motor there to get sleeved and they use AEBS sleeves. I have a chipped ecu already running crome pro, still have a walbro 255 in the car. only thing I need is injectors, map sensor, tuning and turbo kit and clutch. running stock sleeves would help me out big time though that's about $1200-$1500 I save just don't have the added security, but Howard @ RLZ will be tuning the setup so I have faith in his work. car is a 1993 integra RS, currently has a stock b16 in it with built head that has itr cams, skunk2 valve springs/retainers, rlz valve job and port work. I have looked into all motor and my friend has a 230whp b20vtec in his EG hatch and it's very fast but it just isn't the same as boost ya know?

foxdecoy

build and boost a d series you will reach your goal
stock sleeves will hold over 500 it has been proven many times
you just need a good tune you can fully build top and bottom a d16z6 for around 2k
and then big turbo good amount of boost and there you go mid 400s easy.
dont know why more people dont go d
if you want 600s go b series but for something as small as 400 go with a d

92redhatch

If you don't sleeve the motor you'll regret it

gtz

go on a trip to europe. Cars come and go, but that will be the trip of a lifetime.

GEN2 LS

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I have a integra:p no d-series for me LOL!

Death_to_Thieves

word. go to Amsterdam and blow it all on hookers and piff, haha

AJxr

fast cars suck and will always cost more and more money.

pay off debt.

d16z6Tcrx

for 450-500 hp sleeving is a waste of money..... period