For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (Roll Call)
07-09-2002, 08:39 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca, USA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (Roll Call)
This topic was brought up on an earlier post and thought it would be a good idea if everyone that's doing the custom/junkyard setup should post their partlist, post pics of finished install and maybe share your experience w/ us. well here's my list so far and about half way done.
Parts: Price
used t3/t40e Turbo..........................................$40 0.00
RevHard Manifold.......................................... ..$310.00
tial wastegate w/ dump tube.............................$250.00
custom oil cooler for turbo................................$55.00
various gaskets........................................... ....$100.00
ngk bkr7e............................................. ..........$15.00
dsm injectors w/ cleaning by cruisin perf...........$150.00
downpipe.......................................... ..............$100.00
misc hardware (clamps, hoses, etc)...................$200.00
Autometer boost guage (b/c it has psi readings).$60.00
Greddy egt guage............................................$ 150.00
gauge pod............................................... ........$30.00
halmeter af30.............................................. ....$200.00
XS boost controller........................................ ...$100.00
custom exhaust w/ gutted cat............................$300.00
intercooler....................................... ................$400.00
intercooler piping............................................ ..$100.00
bov (hks or blitz)............................................ ..$200.00
msd ignition set (ext coil, wires, dist. Cap)..........$150.00
hondata........................................... ................$650.00
grand total:............................................ ..........$3920.00
yea, its coming out to be more than i planned/imagined but i gotta start working around this to lower the price, any suggestions/ideas? thanx and keep em coming!
Parts: Price
used t3/t40e Turbo..........................................$40 0.00
RevHard Manifold.......................................... ..$310.00
tial wastegate w/ dump tube.............................$250.00
custom oil cooler for turbo................................$55.00
various gaskets........................................... ....$100.00
ngk bkr7e............................................. ..........$15.00
dsm injectors w/ cleaning by cruisin perf...........$150.00
downpipe.......................................... ..............$100.00
misc hardware (clamps, hoses, etc)...................$200.00
Autometer boost guage (b/c it has psi readings).$60.00
Greddy egt guage............................................$ 150.00
gauge pod............................................... ........$30.00
halmeter af30.............................................. ....$200.00
XS boost controller........................................ ...$100.00
custom exhaust w/ gutted cat............................$300.00
intercooler....................................... ................$400.00
intercooler piping............................................ ..$100.00
bov (hks or blitz)............................................ ..$200.00
msd ignition set (ext coil, wires, dist. Cap)..........$150.00
hondata........................................... ................$650.00
grand total:............................................ ..........$3920.00
yea, its coming out to be more than i planned/imagined but i gotta start working around this to lower the price, any suggestions/ideas? thanx and keep em coming!
07-09-2002, 08:47 PM
#3
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Hong Kong, HK, Hong Kong
Posts: 2,097
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
[QUOTE]
Parts: Price
used t3/t40e Turbo..........................................$40 0.00
RevHard Manifold.......................................... ..$310.00
tial wastegate w/ dump tube.............................$250.00
various gaskets........................................... ....$100.00
ngk bkr7e............................................. ..........$15.00
dsm injectors ...........$50.00 NO CLEANING
downpipe.......................................... ..............$100.00
misc hardware (clamps, hoses, etc)...................$200.00
Autometer boost guage (b/c it has psi readings).$60.00
Greddy egt guage............................................$ 150.00
gauge pod............................................... ........$30.00
XS boost controller........................................ ...$100.00
custom exhaust w/ gutted cat............................$300.00
intercooler....................................... ................$400.00
intercooler piping............................................ ..$100.00
bov (hks or blitz)............................................ ..$200.00
hondata........................................... ................$650.00
cheaper way maybe?
Parts: Price
used t3/t40e Turbo..........................................$40 0.00
RevHard Manifold.......................................... ..$310.00
tial wastegate w/ dump tube.............................$250.00
various gaskets........................................... ....$100.00
ngk bkr7e............................................. ..........$15.00
dsm injectors ...........$50.00 NO CLEANING
downpipe.......................................... ..............$100.00
misc hardware (clamps, hoses, etc)...................$200.00
Autometer boost guage (b/c it has psi readings).$60.00
Greddy egt guage............................................$ 150.00
gauge pod............................................... ........$30.00
XS boost controller........................................ ...$100.00
custom exhaust w/ gutted cat............................$300.00
intercooler....................................... ................$400.00
intercooler piping............................................ ..$100.00
bov (hks or blitz)............................................ ..$200.00
hondata........................................... ................$650.00
cheaper way maybe?
07-09-2002, 09:04 PM
#5
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida, United States
Posts: 6,024
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
Koo this is mine...
Turbo System:
>South Florida Performance OR Pann Auto T-3 Turbo Manifold
- SFP = $400, Pann = $300. If i go Pann I have to make a custom downpipe, if i go sfp, i can buy their dp for $150
>Custom OR South Florida Performance Downpipe (depends on manifold)
>Custom Charge Pipes (JC Whitney)
Garrett T-3 Turbocharger (.60A/R, 60-trim comp, .48A/R turbine)
Starion Intercooler
Apex'i Twin Chamber Blow Off Valve
Tial 35mm .45 Bar Wastegate
Fuel System & Tuning:
DSM 450cc Injectors
88-91 Injector Resistor Box
255lph Walbro High Pressure Intank Fuel Pump (FPH003)
Calterm GM Injector harness clips
Electronics & Gauges:
Apex'i V-AFC
Greddy Turbo Timer
Autometer Sport-Comp A/F Ratio Gauge
Autometer Sport-Comp Boost Gauge
NGK BCPR7ES-11 Spark Plugs
Miscellaneous:
>Turbo Performance Oil Line Kit
>Silicone couplers
>Air Filter
>Other miscellaneous crap
only items with a > next to it are left to buy
Turbo System:
>South Florida Performance OR Pann Auto T-3 Turbo Manifold
- SFP = $400, Pann = $300. If i go Pann I have to make a custom downpipe, if i go sfp, i can buy their dp for $150
>Custom OR South Florida Performance Downpipe (depends on manifold)
>Custom Charge Pipes (JC Whitney)
Garrett T-3 Turbocharger (.60A/R, 60-trim comp, .48A/R turbine)
Starion Intercooler
Apex'i Twin Chamber Blow Off Valve
Tial 35mm .45 Bar Wastegate
Fuel System & Tuning:
DSM 450cc Injectors
88-91 Injector Resistor Box
255lph Walbro High Pressure Intank Fuel Pump (FPH003)
Calterm GM Injector harness clips
Electronics & Gauges:
Apex'i V-AFC
Greddy Turbo Timer
Autometer Sport-Comp A/F Ratio Gauge
Autometer Sport-Comp Boost Gauge
NGK BCPR7ES-11 Spark Plugs
Miscellaneous:
>Turbo Performance Oil Line Kit
>Silicone couplers
>Air Filter
>Other miscellaneous crap
only items with a > next to it are left to buy
07-09-2002, 09:09 PM
#6
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca, USA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (CivicRyda2k)
wow, pretty similar to what i had planned but getting side tracked. so your running the hack? how's that working for you? how boost you running? any reliability problems?
07-09-2002, 09:37 PM
#7
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
Well, here are my comments to your list 
I'm assuming this is on some kind of OBD1 B-series motor in a civic or 'teg?
used t3/t40e Turbo..........................................$40 0.00
- Well, you can buy used, but I'd rather get a brand new one for $250 more and not take any risks.....
RevHard Manifold.......................................... ..$310.00
- SFP makes some KILLER manifolds.....I especially like their GSR manifold design, hit up my site to see what kind of power we're making on SFP manifolds...but they're about $140 more than the revhard
tial wastegate w/ dump tube.............................$250.00
- You should be able to find a tial 35mm for like $200, and they include a dumptube flange.....just weld a small segment of pipe on there and clamp some flextube to it for a dumptube and save yourself $50....
custom oil cooler for turbo................................$55.00
- $55 is probably on the high end.....an oil cooler really isn't necessary though....I'd spend the money on a better manifold or a new turbo personally.....
various gaskets........................................... ....$100.00
- A little high, but good to have some room to mess with
ngk bkr7e............................................. ..........$15.00
- Yep
dsm injectors w/ cleaning by cruisin perf...........$150.00
- Send them to RC, same price ($50 for injectors, $100 for cleaning)
downpipe.......................................... ..............$100.00
- You'll need some 2.5 inch pipe and a 2.5 inch mandrel doughnut to cut.....you may need one more 90 degree bend, but all those won't cost you more than like $40 and some welding
misc hardware (clamps, hoses, etc)...................$200.00
- A little high $$$
Autometer boost guage (b/c it has psi readings).$60.00
- More like $50 (yeah, I'm bein picky )
Greddy egt guage............................................$ 150.00
- Good call
gauge pod............................................... ........$30.00
halmeter af30.............................................. ....$200.00
- Why? You have an EGT, spend $100 for some dyno time somewhere with a wideband, tune there, and spend the $100 you save on something else
XS boost controller........................................ ...$100.00
custom exhaust w/ gutted cat............................$300.00
intercooler....................................... ................$400.00
intercooler piping............................................ ..$100.00
- Used stuff I imagine? Pricing for this kind of thing is tough to judge, hopefully you'll find a good deal on someone selling a used IC off a kit with piping....if you make your piping out of aluminum mandrel, it'll probably be closer to $200
bov (hks or blitz)............................................ ..$200.00
- Get a turboXS type H and save yourself $70
msd ignition set (ext coil, wires, dist. Cap)..........$150.00
- If you get it used, but it's not really necessary if you need the money somewhere else
hondata........................................... ................$650.00
- Hondata RULES!!
Overall a pretty complete setup......you have an aftermarket clutch to hold the power already? I'm kinda sleepy so hopefully I didn't say anything stupid.....you'll love 'da boost, just do it right and tune it right...
Brian
I'm assuming this is on some kind of OBD1 B-series motor in a civic or 'teg?used t3/t40e Turbo..........................................$40 0.00
- Well, you can buy used, but I'd rather get a brand new one for $250 more and not take any risks.....
RevHard Manifold.......................................... ..$310.00
- SFP makes some KILLER manifolds.....I especially like their GSR manifold design, hit up my site to see what kind of power we're making on SFP manifolds...but they're about $140 more than the revhard
tial wastegate w/ dump tube.............................$250.00
- You should be able to find a tial 35mm for like $200, and they include a dumptube flange.....just weld a small segment of pipe on there and clamp some flextube to it for a dumptube and save yourself $50....
custom oil cooler for turbo................................$55.00
- $55 is probably on the high end.....an oil cooler really isn't necessary though....I'd spend the money on a better manifold or a new turbo personally.....
various gaskets........................................... ....$100.00
- A little high, but good to have some room to mess with
ngk bkr7e............................................. ..........$15.00
- Yep
dsm injectors w/ cleaning by cruisin perf...........$150.00
- Send them to RC, same price ($50 for injectors, $100 for cleaning)
downpipe.......................................... ..............$100.00
- You'll need some 2.5 inch pipe and a 2.5 inch mandrel doughnut to cut.....you may need one more 90 degree bend, but all those won't cost you more than like $40 and some welding
misc hardware (clamps, hoses, etc)...................$200.00
- A little high $$$
Autometer boost guage (b/c it has psi readings).$60.00
- More like $50 (yeah, I'm bein picky
)Greddy egt guage............................................$ 150.00
- Good call
gauge pod............................................... ........$30.00
halmeter af30.............................................. ....$200.00
- Why? You have an EGT, spend $100 for some dyno time somewhere with a wideband, tune there, and spend the $100 you save on something else
XS boost controller........................................ ...$100.00
custom exhaust w/ gutted cat............................$300.00
intercooler....................................... ................$400.00
intercooler piping............................................ ..$100.00
- Used stuff I imagine? Pricing for this kind of thing is tough to judge, hopefully you'll find a good deal on someone selling a used IC off a kit with piping....if you make your piping out of aluminum mandrel, it'll probably be closer to $200
bov (hks or blitz)............................................ ..$200.00
- Get a turboXS type H and save yourself $70
msd ignition set (ext coil, wires, dist. Cap)..........$150.00
- If you get it used, but it's not really necessary if you need the money somewhere else
hondata........................................... ................$650.00
- Hondata RULES!!
Overall a pretty complete setup......you have an aftermarket clutch to hold the power already? I'm kinda sleepy so hopefully I didn't say anything stupid.....you'll love 'da boost, just do it right and tune it right...
Brian
Trending Topics
07-10-2002, 07:58 PM
#8
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida, United States
Posts: 6,024
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
wow, pretty similar to what i had planned but getting side tracked. so your running the hack? how's that working for you? how boost you running? any reliability problems?
07-10-2002, 08:06 PM
#9
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca, USA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (Firedrake)
[QUOTE]- Why? You have an EGT, spend $100 for some dyno time somewhere with a wideband, tune there, and spend the $100 you save on something else
how does that work? do they take out the original one an just plug it into there or do i need an extra bung somewhere?
[Modified by theory48, 5:06 AM 7/11/2002]
[Modified by theory48, 5:07 AM 7/11/2002]
how does that work? do they take out the original one an just plug it into there or do i need an extra bung somewhere?
[Modified by theory48, 5:06 AM 7/11/2002]
[Modified by theory48, 5:07 AM 7/11/2002]
07-10-2002, 09:06 PM
#10
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lyman, SC
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
Mine
5psi, 93 octane, 4 degrees of ignition retard
1st gen dsm turbo and intercooler $25
Junkyard, I bought more than one setup so I got this cheap
I modded the wastegate alittle
1st gen dsm bypss valve and pipe $50
dsmtrader.com
CRX HF exhaust manifold $50
internet
custom adapter $$$free
I made it
Down pipe $15
advance and local muffler shop
Oil line block fitting adapters to 1/8 npt $27
mcmaster-carr
Including 1 1/8 npt cross
1 1/8 bspt male to 1/8 npt female adapter
1 1/8 npt male to 1/8 bspt female adapter
and a few 1/8npt close nipples
Oil line and hose ends to the cross $free
got loads of stainless hose at work
Coolant lines $free
Friend's dad owns a ford dealership
throttlebody adapter $4
Ace TrueValue
VDO boost gauge $35
Summitracing
Autometer A/F gauge $55
Summitracing
Sunpro oil psi gauge $15
Advance Auto
Different links and bends of 2.5" radiator hose $35
Advance auto
2 fish tank checks and T's $9
Local pet store
Hose clamps were what I got from junkyards during removals
APC air filter $15
Autozone
Del Sol radiator to allow for dsm smic to be a fmic $90
Internet
I think that's it.
[Modified by jdblack1, 6:07 AM 7/11/2002]
5psi, 93 octane, 4 degrees of ignition retard
1st gen dsm turbo and intercooler $25
Junkyard, I bought more than one setup so I got this cheap
I modded the wastegate alittle
1st gen dsm bypss valve and pipe $50
dsmtrader.com
CRX HF exhaust manifold $50
internet
custom adapter $$$free
I made it
Down pipe $15
advance and local muffler shop
Oil line block fitting adapters to 1/8 npt $27
mcmaster-carr
Including 1 1/8 npt cross
1 1/8 bspt male to 1/8 npt female adapter
1 1/8 npt male to 1/8 bspt female adapter
and a few 1/8npt close nipples
Oil line and hose ends to the cross $free
got loads of stainless hose at work
Coolant lines $free
Friend's dad owns a ford dealership
throttlebody adapter $4
Ace TrueValue
VDO boost gauge $35
Summitracing
Autometer A/F gauge $55
Summitracing
Sunpro oil psi gauge $15
Advance Auto
Different links and bends of 2.5" radiator hose $35
Advance auto
2 fish tank checks and T's $9
Local pet store
Hose clamps were what I got from junkyards during removals
APC air filter $15
Autozone
Del Sol radiator to allow for dsm smic to be a fmic $90
Internet
I think that's it.
[Modified by jdblack1, 6:07 AM 7/11/2002]
07-10-2002, 09:11 PM
#11
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lyman, SC
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (jdblack1)
07-10-2002, 09:23 PM
#12
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca, USA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (jdblack1)
nice, what kinda fmic is that? btw, i noticed the intake side of your turbo is facing the other way. any reasons why? I'm still trying to figure how to put my kit together so i'm asking alot of questions. thanx 
07-10-2002, 09:30 PM
#13
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lyman, SC
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
nice, what kinda fmic is that? btw, i noticed the intake side of your turbo is facing the other way. any reasons why? I'm still trying to figure how to put my kit together so i'm asking alot of questions. thanx
as far as the compressor on the drivers side the turbine is in good line with stock exhaust.
07-11-2002, 09:08 AM
#14
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA
Posts: 1,041
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
- how does that work? do they take out the original one an just plug it into there or do i need an extra bung somewhere?
Brian
07-11-2002, 09:20 AM
#15
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca, USA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (Firedrake)
ic, i should start researching that. but those cheap autometer's a/f gauges w/ all the lights are so pretty! lol 
self.
self.
07-11-2002, 09:40 AM
#16
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida, United States
Posts: 6,024
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
yah... egt is better. a/f isn't as accurate and pretty much only reads at WOT. Although once i tested my a/f with the afc on my car (only intake). Totally stock the car would read say the last few greens, with the intake it would go a couple bars up towards stoich (but still green), then i put the afc to +2% then it went back down to all the way green. hehe. can u tell i had too much time on my hands?
07-11-2002, 04:13 PM
#18
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca, USA
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (CivicRyda2k)
that's a decent price right? i got it on ebay and the guy was local so i saved about 15 bux on shipping
07-11-2002, 04:36 PM
#19
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: aroundtheworld, inaday, usa
Posts: 1,898
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Re: For all of you piecing together your own turbo kit! (theory48)
Turbos not on the car YET:
T3=$50
oil & coolant hoses and clamps=$20
BOV=$12
Adjustable cartech FMU=$60
HF manifold=Free from old motor swap
B&M FP Guage=$34
Autometer Boost=$50
Autometer A/F=$60
Oil pan fitting=free (custom)
charge pipes=$20 (custom)
I am planning on getting a fuel pump and IC a soon as I can, but I might run without one for the moment without going max boost and driving conservativly until I get an IC. But it's not on yet so I don't worry. What helped me out the most is having the spare motor to mount all my parts on and fit it right so I know I am not missing anything. The cartech FMU is pretty nice because it has an adjustable static FPR and a rising rate one too so I am using it on my NA setup right now and it works real nice. I am going to try it without the fuel pump and look at the fuel pressure and the a/f guage (and read plugs) to see if I really need one (I now some peeps that run without a high pressure one and they run well w/ FMU).
Hopefully later I might get an AFC and go for the AFC hack with some 450cc injcetors.
T3=$50
oil & coolant hoses and clamps=$20
BOV=$12
Adjustable cartech FMU=$60
HF manifold=Free from old motor swap
B&M FP Guage=$34
Autometer Boost=$50
Autometer A/F=$60
Oil pan fitting=free (custom)
charge pipes=$20 (custom)
I am planning on getting a fuel pump and IC a soon as I can, but I might run without one for the moment without going max boost and driving conservativly until I get an IC. But it's not on yet so I don't worry. What helped me out the most is having the spare motor to mount all my parts on and fit it right so I know I am not missing anything. The cartech FMU is pretty nice because it has an adjustable static FPR and a rising rate one too so I am using it on my NA setup right now and it works real nice. I am going to try it without the fuel pump and look at the fuel pressure and the a/f guage (and read plugs) to see if I really need one (I now some peeps that run without a high pressure one and they run well w/ FMU).
Hopefully later I might get an AFC and go for the AFC hack with some 450cc injcetors.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DigitalFusion
Forced Induction
11
07-04-2004 12:34 AM
CalvitoSol
Forced Induction
25
07-09-2002 02:45 PM
