<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I planned on using a windshield washer motor, a custom resevior, and I was going to mount the injectors in the chargeline right before the TB...anybody have any links to that SMC enterprise??? Im too lazy to search.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think you want to use a windshield washer pump, it probably won't have the flow/pressure you need. Remember that the effective pressure actual pressure minus your boost pressure (since it's going into the charge pipe). One option is to run it into the intake BEFORE the turbo and the turbo will atomize it further, though it's possible that this will put wear on the turbine blades. I think that I may try this on mine in the next few months, but only because I don't like my turbo

 

itll work i think if we dont use injectors, itll have the same pressure as your washer fluid coming out on the windshield, and that should be enoug to spray isopropal into the TB...

 

As i have found out alcohol, specifically ethanol and methanol are very abrasive liquids. When they are injected into the engines, they tend to stick to the cylinder wall area and wear the rings out very quickly.

 

thats y we're using isopropyl right?

 

Alcohol in general is abrasive liquid. Isopropyl alcohol is no exeption. Denatured ethanol, or methanol is a bit more abrasive. The guys that run alcohol for fuel are doing tear down/rebuilds all the time.

 

A fuel pump, or a windshield washer pump will NOT give you enough pressure to properly atomize the alcohol, and you will more than likely end up drowning out the spark and doing no good. Stick to an SMC or Aquamist kit, it's MUCH easier.

 

I should also add that fuel pumps will wear out quickly using alcohol. Alcohol does to the internals of the pump what it does to the engine, wears it down. You need a alcohol specific pump if you want it to last.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alcohol in general is abrasive liquid. Isopropyl alcohol is no exception. Denatured ethanol, or methanol is a bit more abrasive. The guys that run alcohol for fuel are doing tear down/rebuilds all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, Methanol is a HIGHLY corrosive liquid and will usually eat through the seals in your pump, and lines, but there are THOUSANDS of GN guys using Denatured alky and water mixed together with the SMC kit that have had no problems at all, including me. It's a great way to make more power on pump gas, and I'm totally confident in the SMC kit.

 

but thats no fun to make and $$$, lol..we're poor

 

That pump is alcohol compliant.

 

yea, but say you were boosting 10psi and trying to spray....wouldnt the wiper pump have to put out atleast 10psi before anything would even start to flow? I dont even know how powerful those pumps are....just wondering.

 

no without using injectors, and using something like the stock washer sprayer, itll spray out no matter what, just like cleaning ur windshields...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no without using injectors, and using something like the stock washer sprayer, itll spray out no matter what, just like cleaning ur windshields...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but you need a lot of pressure to be effective. When you get enough pressure and proper atomization, there are more, smaller droplets, so you get more surface area so the alky can absorb more heat before it vapourizes, which also uses more heat. The little windshield washer sprayer does NOT push enough PSI to be effective.

 

hmm...how could i make one then?

 

One of many examples: http://www.frii.com/~maphill/wi.html

 

hmm, interesting...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridvteceg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how 8 injectors 4+2=6??? lol sorry..

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Im running 8 for straight fuel + 2 for alcohol. so itd be 10...
For the injectors, they would pretty much be just like spray nozzles. Could I not just hook them up to a switch that when turned on, will OPEN the injectors? When the switch is off, they would be closed. No opening and closing, just OPEN and CLOSED....
and the 50/50 sounds like the way to go...

 

Normal alcohol is not "abrasive". The damage caused to engines form running alcohol is due to the alcohol washing the engine oil off of the internals.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Im running 8 for straight fuel + 2 for alcohol. so itd be 10...
For the injectors, they would pretty much be just like spray nozzles. Could I not just hook them up to a switch that when turned on, will OPEN the injectors? When the switch is off, they would be closed. No opening and closing, just OPEN and CLOSED....
and the 50/50 sounds like the way to go...</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh ok sweet...

 

why not use a n2o kit? fil the bottle with alkie & use direct port injection. then you can program when you want it to spray with pressure switches, etc.

 

because nitrous is a gas and pressurized in the tank. so a liquid qouldnt come out...

 

could you use a nitrous type setup, but with propane? I know propane is pressurized, so you wouldnt even need a pump, just a solenoid to control it....

 

that might be possible...

 

anyone ever tried this?? I might want to because a tank of propane would last a while and refills arent that expensive.

 

just go see if a gas shop can put propane in ur bottle