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Old 07-28-2009, 04:56 PM
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b18c1 stock bottom end, pistons nrp forged 12:1 oem rings, stock top end, arp studs, 3 layer cometic hd, golden eagle fuel rail, aem cold air, stock injectors, act stage 2, 255 walpro intank 255 walpro under the hood, direct port wet n.o.s. system, no tune p72, v-acf2 tuned if you want the tuned specs for the v-acf let me know maybe you can shed some insight! Other than that Im the only one crazy enuf around my way that uses this much juice everyone else is boosted. I have a buddy here injecting water/meth with his turbo setup he claims its safe to run as a substitute to NO2? anyone know if thats accurate?
1. whats the piston to wall clearance
2. what are piston rings gapped too
3. no tune p72 no no no
4. v-afc2 are u serious man its 2009
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Probably depends on how much you spray it me I use it 9 out of 10 times every time I take it out and its my daily I go through 2 10 lbs. bottles a week and I fry my rings every season! You will cause damage through wear and tear good luck
After reading your setup you should read through this whole thread before you start posting stuff like this ^^^. Not tring to be a *** either.
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dont have deep pockets like you brotha and stop being an ***
.010 .016 .008 ptw stock spec. what ever that is
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dont have deep pockets like you brotha and stop being an ***
.010 .016 .008 ptw stock spec. what ever that is
It doesnt take deep pockets crome free for tuning, and looser specs you need to build it to handle power like i said i wasnt tring to be a *** just tring to help you out.

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Old 07-28-2009, 07:12 PM
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What would you perfer other than my loser specs? Drop me some of that knowledge
Old 07-29-2009, 02:43 AM
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Im willing to bet the way your motor is built, tuned or doing something incorrectly is the reason your frying your rings. List your setup
truetrue, a setup done right will last and just have slightly increased wear, simarly to a turbosetup wich you don't expect to make 150K

pistons nrp forged 12:1 oem rings, no tune p72, v-acf2 tuned

Other than that Im the only one crazy enuf around my way that uses this much juice everyone else is boosted
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.010 .016 .008 ptw stock spec.
stock spec as in OEM-spec???

because OEM-spec+forged+nitrous=
suprised that it lasts so long

even if you used the specs provided by your piston supplier they are to small.
allmotor specs are to tight for nitrous
turbo specs are about right when building a nitrous setup

and probably your pistons are geared towards allmotorperformance
most of the time your ringlands are freakishly thin for nitrous

you don't have deep pockets???
if you do everything right the first time it costs a lot less then rebuilding every season.
100shot is nice but not much, ran 150 on the streets on a bone stock setup
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If you RAN 150 in the past to your bone stock set up what happened to it? My internals are nearly stock oem except for those pistons and I do have a set of 9:1 mahle's laying around which are used and got for noting, should I use since they would be for a low compression turbo setup like you explain? Oh yea I like the deep pockets one liner good one, Ive done the rings twice and both times just around $150. Crome software is free, hardware is not and tuning isnt either one of these days I will get it tuned for know its not happening. Keep it coming *** BAGS.
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What would you perfer other than my loser specs? Drop me some of that knowledge
When I build nitrous motors with forged internals I usually run 0.0010-0.0015 looser PTW clearance than the piston manufacture recommends and .020-.022 top ring and .024-.026 second ring and oil ring .015 minimum hope this helps.
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If you RAN 150 in the past to your bone stock set up what happened to it?
it ran without problems, it just blew when i made a fatal (read stupid)nozzle repositioning decision, trying to run towards 200hp

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My internals are nearly stock oem except for those pistons and I do have a set of 9:1 mahle's laying around which are used and got for noting, should I use since they would be for a low compression turbo setup like you explain?
no no no...

i'm not suggesting that u use turbo-hardware, just turbo clearances
PTW on a turbo setup is way looser then allmotor. that's not because the pistons are different, but the useage is. turbo generates alot more heat then allmotor, hence the looser settings.

then go think what effect nitrous has on the combustiontemps and make up your mind on the clearances.

ghostofnyc hit the nail on the head with what i meant, keep the high cr, just adjust clearances for the type of usage!

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Oh yea I like the deep pockets one liner good one, Ive done the rings twice and both times just around $150. Crome software is free, hardware is not and tuning isnt either one of these days I will get it tuned for know its not happening
so rings, a new headgasket and the time involved in putting it all together just cost you 150$? time is money

crome software is free, chipping is near free (~35bucks), ostrich for realtime editing is 150ish. so all in all you'd spend less then 200 bucks on a fully tuneable setup.
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tuning is free, it's called do it yourself and it ain't that hard


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Keep it coming *** BAGS.
we´re not assraping you, we´re just giving a hand
Old 07-29-2009, 08:07 AM
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All right! now Im reading the goods I will loosen them up this time Im in the middle of the rebuild process my only cost is parts and I have nothing but time which dont cost me a thing. Im not an experienced tuner with any tuning maybe you guys can throw me some good base maps off crome for nitrous
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All right! now Im reading the goods I will loosen them up this time Im in the middle of the rebuild process my only cost is parts and I have nothing but time which dont cost me a thing. Im not an experienced tuner with any tuning maybe you guys can throw me some good base maps off crome for nitrous
what are your bearing specs if you remember
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they were all in spec .006 to .008 if your talking about endplay. oil clearance .0013 to .0015 no turn on crank yet I might polish it this time will that effect it?? to much of a difference across in those specs you think?
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they were all in spec .006 to .008 if your talking about endplay. oil clearance .0013 to .0015 no turn on crank yet I might polish it this time will that effect it?? to much of a difference across in those specs you think?
loosen up the bearings a bit too
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So i just happen to have 55 gallons of pro power purple 114 octane race fuel laying around. What could i do with that? If i make a separate fuel supply for the nitrous could i leave the timing where it is given the octane rating?
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I used to run two stages of nitrous starting with a 125 shot wet direct port then adding a 65 wet fogger. Thats a 190 shot. It lasted a long time but wouldnt et like I wanted it to. It was easy to 60ft the car but it always ran out of go on the top end. SO I went to the dark side (boost) and im getting the et's I want now.

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damn, thats one tight motor. I tend to run a .003 or .0035 PTW
rods .00175-.00225 main bearings in .002-.0025 range,but thats me
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damn, thats one tight motor. I tend to run a .003 or .0035 PTW
rods .00175-.00225 main bearings in .002-.0025 range,but thats me
we build close in specs
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Yea thats what it sounds like, gona do some different things this time. good feed back
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whats the limit on stock sleeves
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jus wonderin if anyone ones if nitrous is illegal in street cars in canada. thanks
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is anyone running the zex bottle warmer? how do you like it? and its a bottle warmer worth the money?
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is anyone running the zex bottle warmer? how do you like it? and its a bottle warmer worth the money?
Bottle heaters are definately worth it!!
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for sure heat it
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Interested in doing a Wet kit on my stock B18a1. Has about ~155,000 on it. Would like just a simple 35-75 shot on stock internals. Would upgrade to a 255 LPH fuel pump and 440 cc injectors. It would be my daily. I wouldnt spray much though. Just for fun as its stock. Would it be ok to spray?
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Originally Posted by System Lord
whats the limit on stock sleeves
depends on fuel used and the tune


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