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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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Ok so I have a aem wbo2 in place of my stock o2. In saying that I have no o2 sensor hooked up to ecu. Ecu is p28 chipped with crome. I wanna know if I have to get another bung to put my stock o2 sensor on or can I run the white output wire to wire harness/ecu.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 07:15 AM
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Manual by VegasInvasion. Check out page 38.
http://www.gravityimports.com/CROME_v1.6.x_Manual.pdf
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:26 PM
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^ thank you sir
However, the AEM WB "gauge" only has a 0-5v wideband output, which is only compatible with the Crome Gold rom and needs to be correctly programmed (see manual).
Otherwise you do need a NBO2 or a wideband controller that has a simulated NBO2 output if you wish to run closed loop. On the other hand, you shouldn't need closed loop if it's tuned well enough...
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 06:46 PM
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I didn't know you cant even use a wideband without the gold version. Boo
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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You are wrong if it is a 30-4100 which is the most common one due to its price point. See page number 10:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-T5gn3VvauT1WQ

I knew because I own one.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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Yes you can change the output of the gauge to other settings so it doesn't use the 0-5v output calibration.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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Yes but you still cant tune off the 1v output can you?

You have this awful, non linear resolution.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Correct however it is giving you a linear output. However being the spread is only 1 volt your resolution is going to be pretty small.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 09:21 AM
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You consider this linear?

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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I don't see what the fuss is about. You don't HAVE TO have wideband datalogged to tune a car. Although, even though I haven't had CROME Pro in a while (since I have Dealer and just use Gold) I could have sworn you could select from a few widebands you just couldn't edit your own tables.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Sorry I was looking at the wrong output graph, but that isn't the output either. You can download the instructions in the link above that has the specific voltage to AFR output.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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I have not done tuning without an ability to log afr since 2003. Logging AFR in a plot takes all the wasted time and basically guessing out of the equation.

upgrade to a nicer software/hardware and you wont have this problem.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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If you have a load-bearing dyno and about 3 hours you can get the fuel maps really close even without datalogging. I recently had a Nissan with a faulty OBD port on an SAFC that I had to tune freehand... Sucked.

Muckman, you can tune using a wideband input with P30, but you can't program a closed loop wideband scale without the gold rom.
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