http://www.compfused.com/directlink/622/

 

SWEET!

 

repost!

 

Funny, I wasn't even really a drift "hater" before I clicked the link.

Gotta admit though, I did laugh a few times.

 

great. car circus tricks.

 

I can't be hatin'.. That event does something that SCCA and Club racing doesn't... it turns out big crowds at every event.

Road racing is more a "purist" thing to me but I wouldn't mind it if we had a drift event before the races just to bring out a bit of crowd that might stick around to see what the racing is all about.

 

I wish road racing could get spectators like that.

Why is it all the lame sports that get spectators and money. I need to learn how to be a jack ***..

I wonder what the insurance liability was for that event. I can't imagine any insurance company that would insure an event that had cars drifting past people.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't be hatin'.. That event does something that SCCA and Club racing doesn't... it turns out big crowds at every event.

Road racing is more a "purist" thing to me but I wouldn't mind it if we had a drift event before the races just to bring out a bit of crowd that might stick around to see what the racing is all about.</TD></TR></TABLE>
youll never get a big crowd at a club event with local drifters because honestly 95% of the people who say they drift dont, and 4% of the other 5% are learning so they arent at a level high enough to make it interesting to watch. its just like watching someone slide for 2 seconds then spin. D1GP, Formula D all have professional drivers, and thats why they have spectators. the average joe teenager with a RWD car cant drift. no matter what they say online.


NASA events here in phoenix have been running a drift group with great success theres gonna be another one in early march, i cant wait.

DMF - insurance? lol they dont even have "tech" at most tracks in japan. ive seen many drivers that dont even wear helmets while hot lapping on open track days.

 

you guys read about drifting is going to be part of long beach GP?

http://www.speedoptions.com/articles/4908/

 

This just in: drifting still sucks.

 

Moderately entertaining and very cringe-inducing to watch. Meh. I'm sure I would have had fun if I was there.

 

despite the subject warning, trolls still have no life and responds....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DMF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish road racing could get spectators like that.

Why is it all the lame sports that get spectators and money. I need to learn how to be a jack ***..

I wonder what the insurance liability was for that event. I can't imagine any insurance company that would insure an event that had cars drifting past people.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree, but we are in lawsuit happy america. maybe the mentality in other countries are a lil more lenient.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">youll never get a big crowd at a club event with local drifters because honestly 95% of the people who say they drift dont, and 4% of the other 5% are learning so they arent at a level high enough to make it interesting to watch. its just like watching someone slide for 2 seconds then spin. D1GP, Formula D all have professional drivers, and thats why they have spectators. the average joe teenager with a RWD car cant drift. no matter what they say online.


NASA events here in phoenix have been running a drift group with great success theres gonna be another one in early march, i cant wait.

DMF - insurance? lol they dont even have "tech" at most tracks in japan. ive seen many drivers that dont even wear helmets while hot lapping on open track days. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I didn't say anything abou the Club Racers doing the drifting!!! But as a Club Racer (ITA w/ ICSCC) I would think it would draw a bigger crowd if we had drift even in coordination with our race event. Obviously the Drifters would be drifting and the racers would be racing... but not at the same time.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">despite the subject warning, trolls still have no life and responds....</TD></TR></TABLE>

"still have no lives"

sorry, but that was bugging me. and yes, i know i have no life, but grammar is important to me.

 

Although... each person only has 1 life. By the same token, each girl only have one father. So:

The girls have no father?
The girls have no fathers?!

Seems to me like both are okay... but I am not sure. I sucked at and hated English classes... especially creative writing.

 

I like drifting when done properly, but most of the demos in the northeast and most of the drifting segments on TV have really sucked. It amounts to ametuers doing donuts because they can't hold a drift. They had two of them at Lime Rock during the big Memorial Day weekend event. Two absolute novices in S13s. They couldn't hold a drift so they ended up doing donuts and driving off the track which dragged a ton of dirt back onto the track right before a big race. Like I said, I like drifting for what it is, but there is a time and a place for it and demos like the one I saw at Lime Rock do nothing but make "drift haters" out of open minded motorsport junkies.

 

I'd be much more open to drifting if it wasn't so much more popular than road racing. How pathetic that more people would rather watch an exhibition of cars driving the wrong way, than an actual race with actual passing and actual competition.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't say anything abou the Club Racers doing the drifting!!! But as a Club Racer (ITA w/ ICSCC) I would think it would draw a bigger crowd if we had drift even in coordination with our race event. Obviously the Drifters would be drifting and the racers would be racing... but not at the same time.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i didnt say anything about the club racers eithre lol, the MAJORITY of people who drift are learning(myself included). they cant do those 70mph linked drifts like the professionals. the novies and intermediate drifters arent interesting to watch. thats why i say that. im all about trying to get as many people out to a road racing event as possible because thats always been my first love, drifting is just another way to learn car control. but to get an amount of drivers who can actually drift at a local event to actually draw a crowd is very hard. the learning curve is very steep. in the state of arizona we have maybe 9 or 10 people who are decent, and out of those 4 or 5 are good and fun to watch. to get a crowd id say have a big public show event at a regional event, or a national level event.

the SCCA is very reluctant to drifting and i really cant say i blame them. we have tried many times to get events going and they shoot us down each time with "insurance wont let us." wich is a complete crock of **** because you can impliment the correct saftey standards (only certain corners, no tandem stuff) and its just as safe as door to door racing.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sean O'Gorman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
This just in: drifting still sucks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i really dont like talking about drifting on honda-tech because of that. there are so many people who just dont understand. its not racing, its not the fastest way around a corner and it never will be. everyone i know that drifts knows this(the good drivers), accepts this and has a background of grip driving for many years before even drifting. the only people who are like "**** dawg y0u should drift that corner cause its faster y0" are the posers that only make us look stupid.


sean you say you dont like drifting because its more popular than road racing? why do you think nascar is more popular than road racing? because america dosent understand the fastest line through corners, they dont understand setting someone up for a pass. they understand accidents, carnage, shiny things and loud noises. and thats sad.







Modified by Kamin at 9:20 AM 2/13/2005

 

I like watching the drifting during Hyperfest. I've never seen a professional drifting event, but I don't think I'd like it as much as watching something like the US Drift Nationals. Why? Because what I like is wondering each time whether they are going to be able to hold it or not. When a spin is possible at every turn, it's fun to watch. The best was last year watching Evans and Jed go at it, about 2" from each others bumpers. Drifting

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Although... each person only has 1 life. By the same token, each girl only have one father. So:

The girls have no father?
The girls have no fathers?!

Seems to me like both are okay... but I am not sure. I sucked at and hated English classes... especially creative writing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the phrases are both grammatically ok, but they mean different things. the girls have no father implies that they share a father, the girls have no fathers doesn't imply that.

i hated math classes at one point, but now all i do these days is crunch numbers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys read about drifting is going to be part of long beach GP?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hope to God we don't have to be at the flagstations for that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedracer33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like watching the drifting during Hyperfest. I've never seen a professional drifting event, but I don't think I'd like it as much as watching something like the US Drift Nationals. Why? Because what I like is wondering each time whether they are going to be able to hold it or not. When a spin is possible at every turn, it's fun to watch. The best was last year watching Evans and Jed go at it, about 2" from each others bumpers. Drifting </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've been at all of the Hyperfests and I've gotta say the D1GP at JGTC was hands down much better to watch. There was a fair amount of spins and contact but the speeds and the skill displayed were a definite cut above. Watching a bunch of amateurs struggle to get a slide going definitely doesn't compare.

The reason a lot of people don't come out to watch road racing is that its not as glamorous as a whole as pro drifting. Sure, something like ARRC is fun to watch but the average club race does not feature the kind of passing and action that would attract a big crowd except for classes like Spec Miata. Every IT race I've seen has been a group of 2 or 3 breaking away from the pack then the pack getting strung out over the course of the race.

I think World Challenge could be as popular as D1GP if SCCA Pro marketed it better and made it more spectator friendly but we've been saying that for years. A better TV package would help too...

 

At the JGTC this past December there were more people in the stands for the D1 competition than for the JGTC race itself.

I think a-lot of it has to do with the marketing hype along with the short man to man competition that keeps the crowds attention.

I didn't think D1 would be that entertaining but I was impressed. It's all about marketing and with proper marketing you can make chopped liver interesting.

Also, the drivers are skillful and do put on a good show - in the end it's just entertainment.

I enjoy world challenge, but we are in era of entertainment. The media has to showcase more than just racing to keep it all interesting and entertaining.

 

Which gets more coverage on TV, speed skating or figure skating?