trap speed question
11-17-2005, 11:26 PM
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Re: trap speed question (error)
I went 11.6 @ 118 mph. I think there's a thread on fastest SFWD cars on here, that should give you an idea.
my 12.2 run was at 109 mph
my 12.2 run was at 109 mph
11-18-2005, 09:58 AM
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Re: trap speed question (dester223)
sounds like an ls tranny would be best for me if i plan to run 11's. ive read arguements that b16 trannies are better for turbo. i personally feel that it is too difficult to get the power to the ground with high HP turbo applications, using a b16 tranny. the ls gives you a forgiving margin of error. a gsr tranny would reguire me to shift just before the finish line. i think the ls is perfect.
11-18-2005, 10:03 AM
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Re: trap speed question (error)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by error »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like an ls tranny would be best for me if i plan to run 11's. ive read arguements that b16 trannies are better for turbo. i personally feel that it is too difficult to get the power to the ground with high HP turbo applications, using a b16 tranny. the ls gives you a forgiving margin of error. a gsr tranny would reguire me to shift just before the finish line. i think the ls is perfect. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with you but 98% of people in here will not.
I agree with you but 98% of people in here will not.
11-18-2005, 12:13 PM
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Re: trap speed question (Boostage)
last time i was at the track, i was trapping 117mph, but spinning 1st-3rd gears, and running mid 12's... I'm thinking i'll go 11's when i get it to hook up...
11-18-2005, 12:45 PM
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Re: trap speed question (fast93accord)
sounds like one scary accord 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast93accord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">last time i was at the track, i was trapping 117mph, but spinning 1st-3rd gears, and running mid 12's... I'm thinking i'll go 11's when i get it to hook up...</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast93accord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">last time i was at the track, i was trapping 117mph, but spinning 1st-3rd gears, and running mid 12's... I'm thinking i'll go 11's when i get it to hook up...</TD></TR></TABLE>
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11-18-2005, 07:09 PM
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Re: trap speed question (error)
Every setup is different. Different people have different turbos.
http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears/
has a good gear ratio calculator.
I have a b16 trans. 4.05 final drive
24.5" slicks
so my 4th gear is good for 134.18 MPH. Good enough for me
Now, just gotta go run the times.
http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears/
has a good gear ratio calculator.
I have a b16 trans. 4.05 final drive
24.5" slicks
so my 4th gear is good for 134.18 MPH. Good enough for me
Now, just gotta go run the times.
11-18-2005, 07:56 PM
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Re: trap speed question (dester223)
here we go!
to run a long geared tranny is just like using one long gear. what I mean is, shorter geared trannies are tailered for our motors cause we don't produce this thing called "torque". A transmission multiply's torque which we don't have at lower rpm's. Real simply, Top Fuel and Funny Car use one gear(direct drive) why? Cause they don't need a transmission to multi torque get them down the track, they have a $hit load of torque. For some, an LS trans will work if the car is are extremely light weight and make tons of power. just my .02cents. shorter gears and narrow power bands
to run a long geared tranny is just like using one long gear. what I mean is, shorter geared trannies are tailered for our motors cause we don't produce this thing called "torque". A transmission multiply's torque which we don't have at lower rpm's. Real simply, Top Fuel and Funny Car use one gear(direct drive) why? Cause they don't need a transmission to multi torque get them down the track, they have a $hit load of torque. For some, an LS trans will work if the car is are extremely light weight and make tons of power. just my .02cents. shorter gears and narrow power bands
11-19-2005, 11:31 AM
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Re: trap speed question (accordking)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordking »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what I mean is, shorter geared trannies are tailered for our motors cause we don't produce this thing called "torque". A transmission multiply's torque which we don't have at lower rpm's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
acura ls's dont have super high amounts of torque, yet they came with longer geared trannies, can you explain this?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordking »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For some, an LS trans will work if the car is are extremely light weight and make tons of power. just my .02cents. shorter gears and narrow power bands
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can you elaborate as to why it only works for SOME? and what qualifies as TONS of power? i have a 96 hatch, turbo, and plan on seeing 11 second ET's.
what I mean is, shorter geared trannies are tailered for our motors cause we don't produce this thing called "torque". A transmission multiply's torque which we don't have at lower rpm's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
acura ls's dont have super high amounts of torque, yet they came with longer geared trannies, can you explain this?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordking »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For some, an LS trans will work if the car is are extremely light weight and make tons of power. just my .02cents. shorter gears and narrow power bands
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can you elaborate as to why it only works for SOME? and what qualifies as TONS of power? i have a 96 hatch, turbo, and plan on seeing 11 second ET's.
11-19-2005, 01:45 PM
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Re: trap speed question (error)
oh no not the ls vs gsr vs. b16 bs again. Longer gears good for turbo- of course, riiiight yea it makes sense..... THEORETICALLY. The top 7 cars in SFWD/T4 (correct me if im wrong) are using a gsr trans/b16 or hybrid b16/gsr gearing trannys and maybe 4th or 5th ls gear . Theory is overrated, let it go!
. Theory is overrated, let it go!
11-19-2005, 02:49 PM
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Re: trap speed question (amit)
LONG GEARS ARE NOT GOOD FOR TURBO CARS. SHORT GEARS ARE NOT GOOD FOR TURBO CARS. THE <U>PROPER</U> GEARING IS GOOD FOR TURBO CARS!
I'm sick of this long and short gears trash. Figure out your trap speed. Figure out your tire size. Figure out how many RPM's you're going to turn. Pick a tranny based on that, not just what you hear on a forum about how long gears are the suck.
I'm sick of this long and short gears trash. Figure out your trap speed. Figure out your tire size. Figure out how many RPM's you're going to turn. Pick a tranny based on that, not just what you hear on a forum about how long gears are the suck.
11-19-2005, 03:37 PM
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Re: trap speed question (tokes1320)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tokes1320 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LONG GEARS ARE NOT GOOD FOR TURBO CARS. SHORT GEARS ARE NOT GOOD FOR TURBO CARS. THE <U>PROPER</U> GEARING IS GOOD FOR TURBO CARS!
I'm sick of this long and short gears trash. Figure out your trap speed. Figure out your tire size. Figure out how many RPM's you're going to turn. Pick a tranny based on that, not just what you hear on a forum about how long gears are the suck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wow, get the cry baby his bottle!
I'm sick of this long and short gears trash. Figure out your trap speed. Figure out your tire size. Figure out how many RPM's you're going to turn. Pick a tranny based on that, not just what you hear on a forum about how long gears are the suck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wow, get the cry baby his bottle!
11-19-2005, 03:41 PM
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Re: trap speed question (error)
I think people should just experiment........
Some trannies work for different people and different set ups...
also....times are posted not by power....but by "DRIVER SKILL"......
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9.76@146................
LS TRANNY BABY
Some trannies work for different people and different set ups...
also....times are posted not by power....but by "DRIVER SKILL"......
All Squeeze Racing...
First Honda in the 9's from the Bay Area...
LDL SPEED SHOP..
9.76@146................
LS TRANNY BABY
11-19-2005, 03:58 PM
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Re: trap speed question (og asr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by og asr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think people should just experiment........
Some trannies work for different people and different set ups...
also....times are posted not by power....but by "DRIVER SKILL"......
All Squeeze Racing...
First Honda in the 9's from the Bay Area...
LDL SPEED SHOP..
9.76@146................
LS TRANNY BABY</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i agree about the driver skill part. it seems like it would be VERY hard to perfect shifts in a high HP turbo car using the b16 tranny. i guess ill learn... any one have price quotes on getting longer 4th and 5th gears for the b16?
Some trannies work for different people and different set ups...
also....times are posted not by power....but by "DRIVER SKILL"......
All Squeeze Racing...
First Honda in the 9's from the Bay Area...
LDL SPEED SHOP..
9.76@146................
LS TRANNY BABY</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i agree about the driver skill part. it seems like it would be VERY hard to perfect shifts in a high HP turbo car using the b16 tranny. i guess ill learn... any one have price quotes on getting longer 4th and 5th gears for the b16?
11-19-2005, 04:48 PM
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Re: trap speed question (error)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by error »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
acura ls's dont have super high amounts of torque, yet they came with longer geared trannies, can you explain this?
can you elaborate as to why it only works for SOME? and what qualifies as TONS of power? i have a 96 hatch, turbo, and plan on seeing 11 second ET's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess you didn't understand the whole "Top Fuel and Funny Car" and "Direct Drive" concept. I will stop here.
acura ls's dont have super high amounts of torque, yet they came with longer geared trannies, can you explain this?
can you elaborate as to why it only works for SOME? and what qualifies as TONS of power? i have a 96 hatch, turbo, and plan on seeing 11 second ET's. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess you didn't understand the whole "Top Fuel and Funny Car" and "Direct Drive" concept. I will stop here.
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