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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Default Problem with ARP Head Stud and Cometic?

Just put some boost (23PSI) on my T6766 and B18 engine and after 4-5 tests, the engine start heating.
I have a Darton Sleeves 85mm on B18 with comectic headgasket.

I've just removed the head and 2 ARP Head Studs were longer than others about 2mm.

Which ARP Head stud and Headgasket do you recommend me?

Other question about the ARP Grease, where do you put them? in the bottom of the ARP bolt?

Thks

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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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i actually went to the golden eagle studs with there gasket, and love them

the lube i also put on the threads then took them down till they stopped finger tight
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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What motor do you have? B18 doesn't say much. If your non vtec you should have the 2 longer studs in the middle. As for the grease you put it on top of the stud where the bolt goes
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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I will only use golden eagle studs and a oem gasket from ge. As for the lube you need to put it on the top and bottom threads of the studs and cover the washers with it also. I always put the lube in a bag drop the nuts and washers in there and move everything around till they are covered then you should be good.. what motor is it? B18 is not telling us much to help you
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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What motor do you have? B18 doesn't say much. If your non vtec you should have the 2 longer studs in the middle. As for the grease you put it on top of the stud where the bolt goes
B18C4 engine, It is a Vtec engine with B16 Head.

For lub you don't put some in thread of the bottom?
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Yea you should put it on both ends of the threads. A b18c4 is equivalent to our b18c1 correct? You have the wrong headstuds
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeve_Civic
B18C4 engine, It is a Vtec engine with B16 Head.

For lub you don't put some in thread of the bottom?
For that engine all the studs should be the same size. U need to put the lube on the top and bottom threads. U should also cover the washers and nuts to ensure proper torque
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Okay guy, I'm going to take some pictures of Head stud.
Yes B18C4 is B18C1 engine.

What are the good Head Stud please?

Thks
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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agreed studs dont sound right to me

also i think the golden eagles are a better stud as well
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Arp or ge..I've never had a problem with arp. And as we all said you have the wrong studs, you don't need to post pics, you have ls headstuds
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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i just ordered some headstuds from inlinepro they make some that are 1000hp rated they are allmost the same as the L19 from arp..any one have else ever use these studs??
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Problem with ARP Head Stud and Cometic?

Here they are




no is the same length!
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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You should check them when you first put them in to know what you are starting with. It looks like you over stretched them or their QC is non existant. It also looks like you didn't use any moly lube, unless ARP changed from the gray lube and went to clear.

I use AEBS studs with moly lube. I actually torque the studs in the block, set the head on the head gasket and block, then torque. I heat cycle the motor 3 times, pull cams and retorque the nuts. It's worked for me so far.
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Maybe u just blew the gasket, cuz they suck. Wiseco has a pretty good hg
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Wiseco makes a hg?
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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oem hg all the way.
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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what did you torque them to?
what sequence...for example
when i did myn i did 25-40-65-81
after 25 and 40 i loosened the bolt slightly then torque them
i didnt go back and retorque
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Problem with ARP Head Stud and Cometic?

Yes wiseco does. I bought one from here.

Did you check what part no. Of those headstuds before putting them in.

Yes you use the grease both on top and buttom.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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Default Re: Problem with ARP Head Stud and Cometic?

Originally Posted by DELshaneSOL
what did you torque them to?
what sequence...for example
when i did myn i did 25-40-65-81
after 25 and 40 i loosened the bolt slightly then torque them
i didnt go back and retorque
Don't know because I bought the car like that.
When I remove the Head, some head bolts were tightened less than others.
I remermber that the guys told me it was the 3 times is tightened them.

Could you give me the good torque please and good ARP part number for B18C please?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:19 AM
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Default Re: Problem with ARP Head Stud and Cometic?

Im using GE studs and we didnt retorque them.

Holding fine so far.

Look up james of ipg here or lightning motorsport

Im sure they can help you with the right set of arp or ge gsr studs.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:26 AM
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OKay thank you.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Problem with ARP Head Stud and Cometic?

Originally Posted by tepid1
It also looks like you didn't use any moly lube, unless ARP changed from the gray lube and went to clear.
yeah i think you got the lubing mixed up. the bottom of the stud uses motor oil, goes in the block at about 10 ftlbs. the top of the stud that gets the nut uses the moly lube, final torque somewhere around 80-85 max
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 04:51 AM
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It's a good idea to remove the black oxide coating from the threads on ARP's also. It is only there to prevent rust and it increases varience in torque readings from fastener to fastener.
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