<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fasthatch89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im in agreeance on a class that fielded heads up competion for a 11.99 index...run what u brung. A class where all the 12 second cars can run in. You can be all motor, nitrous, and or turbo. It can be for the cars that have fuel cells, fiberglass parts, and lexan. This will give those cars the chance to get heads up experience just like thier street class(all motor, fwd, rwd/awd) competitors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i say we just run a different class for every tenth of a second. that way almost everyone can win... thats aparently what alot of people want. or no.. wait, maybe we can just get a winners trophy with every paid admission.

 

what's wrong with what i proposed? I agree everyone can't win. I not concerned with cars running 13.00 and slower. Im not dissing those cars but i feel that a 11.99-12.99 bracket will help us who are trying to make it to the next level.

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i say we just run a different class for every tenth of a second. that way almost everyone can win... thats aparently what alot of people want. or no.. wait, maybe we can just get a winners trophy with every paid admission.</TD></TR></TABLE>

honestly if you want to have that attitude, then get rid of the brackets and street classes and the only way you run, is if you can qualify for the pro classes.

 

it just seems like a little much to have a special class for guys running between 12 and 13 seconds. there are some event locales that dont even fill up the existing classes as it is. running with faster cars gives people the motivation to be faster themselves.

how do you ward off sangbaggin in your class? or what about the guy qualifying with a 12.9 ... but then has a problem during elims and starts running 13's... does he get DQ'd?

 

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well you not being able to "afford" to build a certain car is not an acceptable out. it is relatively easy for a honda motor to produce 600-ish whp with off the shelf parts. its not like exotic multi thousand $ pieces of equiptment is required. if a car simply cant compete due to budget.. well unfortunatly that is motorsports. join a bowling league if ya dont have the budget. there will always be slower cars, look at the back half of the field in F1, Nascar, and IRL. Its just how things are.</TD></TR></TABLE>
first of all,i am not applying this to me.there are guys that have pretty fast cars(12.0+) that would like to have a heads-up class that they could compete in.maybe they could afford a turbo kit and a few upgrades,but not the money(or sponsors)that it takes to run competitively so they may loose interest.i don't know what the answer is,but i think they deserve a class for themselves.i see them as the future of the sport and i think something should be done to keep them interested so the sport can grow. maybe there isn't a good class for this.i was just trying to help come up with something.i don't think a "nitrous class" is the answer.who would want to remove their turbo for a nitrous setup?

 

Keep them in T4.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they should just have to run in turbo4.
i would like to see a class for the smaller guys that are not sponsored.i don't know how you would do it,but i think some guys are getting discouraged when they are getting beat so bad and they just give up because they think they will never have the $$ to be competitive.i mean,some of the kids that are showing up have cars that run mid to low 12's can barely make the field.most of them want to race heads up,but can't compete with the really fast cars.i am afraid eventually,that the people that would normally race won't even bother to show up </TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree 10000000000%

 

they need to stay in T4

 

im still curious, if there was this turbo 4 "Junior" class, how times will be enforced. what if someone goes faster or slower than the bracket allows? what about the guys who tune the car to run EXACTLY on the low end of the bracket and still beat everyone by almost a second.

 

IHRA TOP SPORTSMAN. 16 car field quickest 16 race in a bracket style format. A class like that is perfect for people who have RACE CARS and want to race other RACE CARS that are not running in one of the pro classes. In IHRA that class is what alot of Pro Mod and Pro Stock drivers come from. I had a nitrous car but because I didn't see a class for that in the near future
I changed my set up and although I am running turbo now I still think their should be a class for the guy or girl who has a race car and wants to compete but on a level that is not as demanding as the pro classes. On the flip side of that there are still not enough cars to fill the current classes so what do you do. I think that ultimately creating classes for race cars and not street cars will put more cars and drivers into the pro classes. Go to a NHRA or IHRA domestic event and see how many street classes they run during a weekend of racing

 

Simple.... 2 classes, Bracket, race what you got with time you can run....You learn to be a great driver and tuner to make your car consistent and yourself also.....
Pro, heads up, and run whatcha brung, have weight penalties for power adders, displacement, fwd/awd vs fwd.... Easy! If your car isnt fast enough to run the pro classes, go back to Bracket and spend the time tuning and building a car that can, maybe also split these classes into 2 faster and slower with say 10.99 being the separation, lets face it it dont matter how fast your cars is, if it's running perfect for the entire race, it's very likely to be a winner...... As for the rest of the Circuit... Stick it

Lets just get rid of all the BS that you have to go through for a particular class, let everyone take their cars as far as they want to and compete at the level they choose.... Like me, I would like to run Pro Heads Up, I dont have RWD, or a Full Tube chassis, or likely to even run into anything better than low 10's high 9's, but you know what, and this is the KEY..... EVERY race I compete in, whether I win lose or blow up my ****........ I as a racer am going to have a **** load fun and thrills......Really, isn't that what it's all about, fun.....Oh and a few bucks here and there when you do good....

So to sum up, cut out all the BS rules about this and that to make a class, have STRICT rules on SAFETY then run whatcha brung in the class level you choose to...... Fields will fill more, classes will have more cars, and it wont be down to the TOP Dolla Holla boys, it will be down to RACERS, I mean how many pro cars are there that can run faster than 8.99, and how many of them run every import drag race event all over the country, how many cars can now run 9.99 and how many can run 10.99.....How many of these go to races every other weekend or so.

 

Oh yeah and to add, you'll start to see I start to ramble and babble sometimes....train of thought slips, but I am sure you get the picture...

 

I think the junior Turbo 4 class is a bad idea. If you can't run in Turbo 4, then thats just something to keep you pushing.

Just make a nitrous only class. Not because they are too slow to compete in Turbo4, but because nitrous is different. I think it would be cool.

 

i say, we run the Jr class.... but make the contestants wear Nomex Dresses.

 

make the class and the nitrous cars will show up i know 20 nitrous hondas off hand that can run low 11,s a 100 1st gen all nos rx7 street cars that will go 10,s and 9,s all nos nissan ser'sin the 11's all nos and my personal starlet reg ins street driven 3tc 9.90s all nos u make the claqss we will come out and play the cars are out there but we cant play with the turbo nos cars in the t4 class make a dedicated class guys can run and you will see progress and nos cars get alot faster than they are now

just make it a rwd/fwd class not just one

 

I'd think very seriously about joining if the class were made.......but if the class was made, you would have to make a commitment to keep it for at least two years to build it up IMO

 

Ok guys, You have brought up some good points on this issue. We will not be adding another bracket style class, if we do this it will be heads up. Turbo 4 is already a 16 car + field. We are only asking for the racers opoinion on this because alot are shop owners and the trend we see is that alot of kids start out this way and gradually step up from there. The only thing we are really looking to do is to get rid of a class that rental cars generally win, and add a class that will have some support. Who wants to watch a 19 sec rental car win, when You could watch a 13sec car try to win against other 12-13sec. cars?

No Danny, not aimed at anyone we know
GMack, Nomex Dresses. LMAO
JDKindle, if we do it, deffianately more than 2 years.

 

Is there room for a true street class turbo 4 cyl? No slicks or drag radials, full interior, all stock panels and trim.

 

I guess that is another possibility, we will wait and see.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sold9secteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess that is another possibility, we will wait and see.</TD></TR></TABLE>You would need to seperate the fwd from the awd though.

 

See, now we are creating 2 new classes.

 

in that case can we make an all-motor class with no swaps too....lol

 

See, now we are getting crazy.

 

its the way things were.......but I digress

 

Why dont you guys only allow 50 racers total and give everyone a trophy. There everyone is happy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sold9secteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Street Racers, What are Your thoughts on a 4 cyl. motor swap w/nitrous class?

Can be a swap or a stock motor
All the bolt ons + Nitrous + Slicks</TD></TR></TABLE>


Now why would they do something like that when they got Jello Wrestling?