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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Default Ignition issues

Ok, so its winter over here in the west, and racing is over for me. Time to fix and upgrade some stuff. I keep having ignitor issues. Distributor gets way too hot to touch. Car starts misfiring, tach freaks out etc. Current setup : S300, oem dist and ignitor, blaster ss coil, MSD digital 6 plus. Currently to band-aid the situation, we've been icing the distributor between rounds (which has cured the issue, but is hella ghetto) What are some options, besides the obvious switching management and going COP??????
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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If I were you Graig I would switch my engine management and run coil on plug with an M&W
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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pro10 and ps92 coil?
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Maybe trying a different coil. Possibly the hvc 2 coil? or that Crane coil that alot of people use/like(edit ps92). I have never heard of that issue before.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 01:44 AM
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I have the m&w pro10 with ps92 coil and harness from t1 and I like it a lot. It's been awhile since I hooked it up but I think you don't run an ignitor anymore with it.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:04 AM
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Yeah, with the S300 your best bet is the Pro 10 kit. A good quality CDI box and it allows you to bypass the igniter completely.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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i hear once u go with the m&w thats it for ignition/ignitor problems. i hope to get the pro 10 myself this winter..
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:38 AM
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Wire the ignitor outside of the distributor.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Just sent you a PM, I have something that might be able to help you out...let me know
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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In for info on this. If the buget allows...
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Reid@KAIZENSPEED
If I were you Graig I would switch my engine management and run coil on plug with an M&W
Which cop's work with the b series head?
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/en/...ro-10-kit.html
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Reid@KAIZENSPEED
If I were you Graig I would switch my engine management and run coil on plug with an M&W
No way, S300 is too easy, even I can tune it. lol. besides, I figure after next year, I'm done with Hondas.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tony1
Yeah, with the S300 your best bet is the Pro 10 kit. A good quality CDI box and it allows you to bypass the igniter completely.
how does the kit bypass the internal ignitor completely?
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
how does the kit bypass the internal ignitor completely?
The M&W has the ignitor built in to the box itself...
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Thoes msd dizzys have the ignitor mounted outside
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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i also use to run the digital 6 with hvc coil and my igniter went out also and just got rid of it and went with pro 10 and the harness from T1. I havnt had any issue with my ignition yet. I love it
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Damnit, lol. Looks like i may need to buy more parts Tony
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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I'm also using the M&W Pro10 with the Ps92 Coil.
Does anyone knows a trick to make the oem tach work with this combination? The M&W tach output wont trigger the oem tach.
I've also tried to trigger the oem tach off the ignitor output. But this didnt work eigther...probably because the ignitor will only send a tach signal if there's a coil hooked up to it.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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I currently have an electrical engineer designing a replacement for the oem icm which will be bullet proof and stable past 12k rpm(not that its needed but we designed it around the idea of needing to be able to turn on and off over 800 times a second). The mosfets being used are able to withstand 5 times the amount of current that the icm can before heating up(the parts are also able to withstand a lot higher temperature). Once the design is done and tested this will be a much cheaper alternative then spending big $ on other setups just to get around the ignitor issues.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k.civic.si
I currently have an electrical engineer designing a replacement for the oem icm which will be bullet proof and stable past 12k rpm(not that its needed but we designed it around the idea of needing to be able to turn on and off over 800 times a second). The mosfets being used are able to withstand 5 times the amount of current that the icm can before heating up(the parts are also able to withstand a lot higher temperature). Once the design is done and tested this will be a much cheaper alternative then spending big $ on other setups just to get around the ignitor issues.
Good to here. HURRY UP HAHA
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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I'm currently selling the ignitor bypass boxes, like the one we use in our own car. PM if you're interested. We used to have the same problems. With the bypass box no more issues.
It has been already tested and works.



P.S: It bypasses the ignitor completely so u can remove it from the distributor and throw it in the garbage...lol.

Last edited by CMB-TUNING; Oct 22, 2010 at 10:31 PM.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 05:02 AM
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Bosch makes a ignitor we honda guys can use. Just mount it with the ecu.

Nology sells it. $86

http://www.nology.com/module.html
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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Cmb how much?
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tony1
Yeah, with the S300 your best bet is the Pro 10 kit. A good quality CDI box and it allows you to bypass the igniter completely.
^this man tells the truth I have purchased many of these combos from T1!
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