glad to hear you solved it, i have a competition aswell but i just received a spec stage 5 clutch thanks to the amazing people at spec especially danny.

hopefully i can bang gears again too lol

ohh before i forget when u said u changed nothing, didnt u change the adapter for the slave so you run a stock releasebearing fork?????????????

 

Yes that i did and it did make the angle look a whole lot better. If your dropping your tranny to put that clutch in i would reccomend putting the stock fork back in

 

ahh thats what i wanted to know thanks brother for all the great help,im sure me and brown kid will be out with the cars in march/april with different clutches and a more advanced h2b

 

I JUS WANNA BANG GEARS lol

 

Haha it does feel damn good, although now i got a 3rd gear grind from all the abuse it took.

 

Things to trouble shoot:

Clutch,
Flywheel,
Throw Out Bearing,
PP,
Shift Fork,
Slave,
Slave Adapter,
Stock/Aftermarket clutch lines, smaller, bigger, better slaves/stronger, etc.

Slave Adapter scares me aluminum, with aftermarket clutches/pp and the amount of pressure it takes. Tiny bit of flex.

Is it me or does the slave have a different tilt/angle then OEM with the H2B? looks worse then OEM? If so that has to be taken into consideration.

With A ton of different setups with Aftermarket Clutch's, PP, Throw Out Bearings. It's like throwing a bunch of variables into the equation when any one of them could be the culprit.

As you guys go on with this inspection you should be able to find a common culprit, it will be found, just takes more research and time.

 

So far i have replaced all of the above. And the problem continues. And the only common factor between the different ppl and the problem is the kit. Cause ppl with the exact setups are running the qsd kit and they have no issues. Its such a shame EVOLUTION has such shitty customer service!!!

 

Well like i posted my problem was cured by replacing the competition clutch. Now i have read a couple other posts about people having problems with the competition clutches. So for me it wasnt the kit cause since i replaced the clutch i can shift fast and smooth at 8k

 

^turbo arnt you running the new clutch slave bracket and stock fork?
meaning things were modified from the original kit

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with regards to the others you have spoken too that had issues with the comp clutch did they replace the bracket and fork aswell?

 

good ****. I knew the whole time the it was the clutch.

 

clutch could be the main issue but might the new part evo sent be the fix aswell,

would the new clutch work with the stock evo bracket for the slave and stock fork?

thats all i wanna know

 

Most people i talked to were having problems with a straight B swap and the competition clutch. Yes i have the stock fork and new adapter from evo on my car but im pretty sure that didnt have much to do with it. Look at how many people use that fork/slave adapter with success unless yours is bent or something you should be fine. I am almost positive it was the clutch the whole time. If evo would have swapped clutches when they had my tranny out we would have figured this out a long time ago.

 

From what I read on this post. It looks like the clutch was the problem the whole time. I mean, it seems like it works for other people with other type of clutches and when they changed it out to one that fortunately works properly, everything seems to go smoothly.

 

Well I Dont have a cc clutch and i have had my clutch replace and the problem continues. If you remember 2fastgsr tried 3 different aftermarket clutches and had the same problem with all.

 

yes but what clutches have you tried? and what condition is your trans in internaly?

the evo kit works fine w/ some clutches and doesnt work well w/ others. its that simple.

also, competition clutch has always sucked and had shifting problems w/ their single disk, that is a fact.

every clutch and pressure plate is different. im sure its possible that evo's step height varies slightly on their friction disk as well so this will cause some clutches not to work as well as others.

i dont know why you guys are having such a hard time understanding this?

install a clutchmasters clutch and you will have no problems shifting. if you still do then you have an issue somewhere inside your trans or w/ your hydro system.

theres no point arguing about it on here when some of us have gone throught the trouble of actually taking things apart and taking measurements and purchasing a clutch that actually works w/ the kit.

the others of you who just keep questioning our findings are only keeping yourselfs from having a working setup

like i have been saying from the beginning, its not rocket science or magic. its an easily diagnosed problem when you work w/ someone who knows what they are doing and has experience in the matter and a good understanding of how everything works.

 

nah2b i understand that a different clutch may work. But y would one b-series clutch work and another not on evo h2b if both work on a bseries and qsd h2b?

 

because the step height may be off just enough on the evo flywheel to allow one to work and not the other since each clutch is different.

my step height measured the same but that doesnt mean everyone elses does.

anyway, the clutchmasters clutch worked great for me and now it is working great for turbo. obviously this clutch works w/ the evo kit.

for anyone having trouble i suggest using a clutchmasters clutch to fix your problem. but first be sure everything else is working properly.

id be very interested to see if exedy clutches work as well. i would be willing to bet they do.

 

has anyone tried act?

 

Hi turboedsupe,
I just wanted to make sure I seek clarity on your "clutchmasters" clutch that you purchased... Was this before or after Evolution gave you their ENTIRE Action Clutch assembly that was on our prototype car to try out on your car? If you are not using it please send it back.

Also... I spoke to Alex from Action Clutch directly, and he measured the height of the p.p. on the C.C. Clutch vs. the Action Clutch that we used and it seemed to have been much thicker and extremely heavier from what he gathered, causing severe markings on your clutch which were significant indications as well. However, not to make assumptions sending it to an unbiased third party indicated that in fact Evo's Kits were engineered correctly with the use of a "stock" clutch. Which I also wanted to point out: OUR FLYWHEELS WERE MEASURED OFF OF A STOCK FLYWHEEL...

Well, I am glad your shifting woes were resolved! Hope you are enjoying your "new" ride. Please feel free to give me a call if you have any further questions,
Take Care!

 

^^^well i can confirm the step height on my evo flywheel measured the same as the factory b series flywheel. and i can certainly believe the comp clutch could be designed a good bit diferently from the stock or similar to stock clutches such as exedy/clutchmasters simply because we have never had any luck shifting w/ comp clutches in b or h series cars.

 

Alex said he measured no differences in PP or disk height/thickness. I myself measured everything before i sent it out and all my measurements matched the clutchmasters clutch i am using. I now am sending the clutch to competition to be examined and see if there is anything wrong with it to there specs.
Evogrl- You guys sent me the USED action clutch for making me drive home from california with a messed up clutch. My competition is now ruined as Turtle lied about the clutch working great. Also syncros in my tranny werent cheap. I think some used base model clutch was the LEAST you guys could do for me. You guys even snaked me out my $14 i paid to ship the clutch to action to be inspected. Evo was supposed to do that when you guys had my tranny on your floor

 

Also if anyone wants to doubt the measurements i can post pics proving the disk/PP are the same thickness in the competition and clutchmasters

 

i had act extreme presure plate with an organic disk
i had a lot of shifting trouble

i have switch my presure plate to a custum (double diafragm) with 900lb clamp load
and now its shifting realy smooth the act have around 650lb clam pload
this summer i did maybe 200 strip 1/4 milles and i miss shift may be 5 time

look at my video
no probleme to shift
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHCAVbpEIeA


sorry for my bad english
i hope you gona understand

 

I find if funny how EVO responds to someone having success with the POS kit. But to thoes of us that are having problems. NO ONE seems to want to help us! Pretty bad customer service by and standards!

 

Brownkid did you sell all your stuff ???