12-Sec Drag Build
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12-Sec Drag Build
I am wanting to run 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile in my 1991 Honda Civic with a B16a (SIR-V) swap. I will be using as a daily and 93 octane. My idea would be a turbo build using the hunter or silver surfer from speedtrap, or maybe a precision 5842. My budget is about 5k and my ideal HP is 400 to 550 (Turbos are rated for that or lower.) I am not wanting lag and if I do have some it's ok just don't want a ton.
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400-500hp is more than needed for 12 second passes. You only need about 270-300hp for mid 12 second passes. You just need the most simple turbo setup. You can just go with a small framed turbo and a ram horn style manifold. Garrett T3/T4 57 Trim. That turbo can support up to 475hp. So you can make your 300hp and have room to grow. Plus its a t3 and not too big where you have bad spool.
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400-500hp is more than needed for 12 second passes. You only need about 270-300hp for mid 12 second passes. You just need the most simple turbo setup. You can just go with a small framed turbo and a ram horn style manifold. Garrett T3/T4 57 Trim. That turbo can support up to 475hp. So you can make your 300hp and have room to grow. Plus its a t3 and not too big where you have bad spool.
I'd recommend a smaller turbo, if ordering from STC then consider their GT2871 package. 56 trim, will easily make the power needed to run 12s or lower.
I also wouldn't necessarily recommend a ram horn, and since you mentioned your car is a daily I'm not sure if you're keeping AC. If you are, then I'd recommend either a a cast manifold or a mini-ram style manifold, the full ram horn takes up more space in the bay, and creates more of a heat pocket underneath it's runners. A cast manifold, or especially a mini ram would offer plenty of flow for ~400WHP.
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I agree with most of this, you don't need 400->550 HP for a 12 second pass, not anywhere close. We have all motor B series with about 240WHP that are running low 12's on street tires, high 11's on slicks.
I'd recommend a smaller turbo, if ordering from STC then consider their GT2871 package. 56 trim, will easily make the power needed to run 12s or lower.
I also wouldn't necessarily recommend a ram horn, and since you mentioned your car is a daily I'm not sure if you're keeping AC. If you are, then I'd recommend either a a cast manifold or a mini-ram style manifold, the full ram horn takes up more space in the bay, and creates more of a heat pocket underneath it's runners. A cast manifold, or especially a mini ram would offer plenty of flow for ~400WHP.
I'd recommend a smaller turbo, if ordering from STC then consider their GT2871 package. 56 trim, will easily make the power needed to run 12s or lower.
I also wouldn't necessarily recommend a ram horn, and since you mentioned your car is a daily I'm not sure if you're keeping AC. If you are, then I'd recommend either a a cast manifold or a mini-ram style manifold, the full ram horn takes up more space in the bay, and creates more of a heat pocket underneath it's runners. A cast manifold, or especially a mini ram would offer plenty of flow for ~400WHP.
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400-500hp is more than needed for 12 second passes. You only need about 270-300hp for mid 12 second passes. You just need the most simple turbo setup. You can just go with a small framed turbo and a ram horn style manifold. Garrett T3/T4 57 Trim. That turbo can support up to 475hp. So you can make your 300hp and have room to grow. Plus its a t3 and not too big where you have bad spool.
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Re: 12-Sec Drag Build
I agree with most of this, you don't need 400->550 HP for a 12 second pass, not anywhere close. We have all motor B series with about 240WHP that are running low 12's on street tires, high 11's on slicks.
I'd recommend a smaller turbo, if ordering from STC then consider their GT2871 package. 56 trim, will easily make the power needed to run 12s or lower.
I also wouldn't necessarily recommend a ram horn, and since you mentioned your car is a daily I'm not sure if you're keeping AC. If you are, then I'd recommend either a a cast manifold or a mini-ram style manifold, the full ram horn takes up more space in the bay, and creates more of a heat pocket underneath it's runners. A cast manifold, or especially a mini ram would offer plenty of flow for ~400WHP.
I'd recommend a smaller turbo, if ordering from STC then consider their GT2871 package. 56 trim, will easily make the power needed to run 12s or lower.
I also wouldn't necessarily recommend a ram horn, and since you mentioned your car is a daily I'm not sure if you're keeping AC. If you are, then I'd recommend either a a cast manifold or a mini-ram style manifold, the full ram horn takes up more space in the bay, and creates more of a heat pocket underneath it's runners. A cast manifold, or especially a mini ram would offer plenty of flow for ~400WHP.
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I ran in the 11's in a 92 hatch with a 57 trim with only 250whp. Like was said before if you want a quicker spooling daily driveable turbo a 57 trim t3/t4 will be cheap and plenty for your goals.
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