<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GElite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LMMFAO YDA, You guys are a ******* joke! Do I know what an 8 track is, Why is that what rockin in you ride? I bet it sounds great, my granddad could hook you up with some old Hank Williams Sr 8 tracks. 35 years huh, I guess that makes you about 55. What is a senor citzen doing hanging out at a tuner site, looking for little boys huh! Thats sick man. You need to get some help. And BTW anybody that says you have to put a 300 watt amp on subs that are rated at 300 watts is a dumb *** that dosent know car audio and please give one example of a 1000 watt amp that draws less than 25 amps thats worth a expletive. There aint one, any decient 1000 watt amp is gonna pull anywhere from 80 to 100 amps peak. Anybody rockin Bazooka **** definatly dosent know whats up. I guess you would probaby recommend a Jenson or a Kracko head unit too huh.</TD></TR></TABLE>


man gtfo How can you pop in someone's thread claim that your mr. badazz installer and post bad info. You mad yourself look like a total fool. Now go change you s/n and try to come back as someone else. Its all good you only have 10 post. And to get on age is straight stupied. I know 62 with a full built itr. That races it scca and drags. Age don't mean shyt. Good luck to all your messed up future installs. Oyea were do you work at so we can spread the word to stay clear of your place.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GElite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LMMFAO YDA, You guys are a ******* joke! Do I know what an 8 track is, Why is that what rockin in you ride? I bet it sounds great, my granddad could hook you up with some old Hank Williams Sr 8 tracks. 35 years huh, I guess that makes you about 55. What is a senor citzen doing hanging out at a tuner site, And BTW anybody that says you have to put a 300 watt amp on subs that are rated at 300 watts is a dumb *** that dosent know car audio and please give one example of a 1000 watt amp that draws less than 25 amps thats worth a expletive. There aint one, any decient 1000 watt amp is gonna pull anywhere from 80 to 100 amps peak. Anybody rockin Bazooka **** definatly dosent know whats up. I guess you would probaby recommend a Jenson or a Kracko head unit too huh.</TD></TR></TABLE> Well it's apparent you can't read, along with not knowing how to use the spell check.
"looking for little boys huh! Thats sick man. You need to get some help." Talk about sick, only a dumbass that got called on being a dumbass would resort to a statment like that, or maybe your not a dumbass, maybe your some snot nosed no0b who is trying to act the big know it all installer, sorry you flunked out on your first post, live with it.

Then there is your rant about 1000W amps, we are talking about 300W amps, but that's right you can't read

I never said you had to use a 300W amp on a 300W speaker, what I said was... <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Because of the sub you have it can only be wired to 1 or 4 ohms, so you really need an amp the makes 300W RMS into 1 or 4 ohms, the amp you link, as you say is only 175W into 4 ohms and is not stable below 2 ohms, although you could run the sub at 175W RMS all day long and not hurt anything, you will not use the full potential of the sub you have and are more then likely to drive the amp into clipping and that can destroy the sub. 94</TD></TR></TABLE> Maybe you should read before you open your yap.

As for my age, I'm over 55, and if you hadn't noticed this is the car audio/security/video form, and your the one that brought up how long you had been installing systems... <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GElite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK Dude, Whatever you say. How old are you dude? I have have probably built more systems over the past 15 years than you have even seen! </TD></TR></TABLE> Well I have seen and built a hell of a lot more "systems" then you have, and was probably installing them when your mommy was still wiping the **** off your ***, and am currently a car audio/security install supervisor for a major western Canadian Electronics Retail outlet.
So before you come in here and open that pie hole, and spue that garbage keep in mind there are people here that know a hell of a lot more then you do, [obviously], and when you get called on it, take my advice and STFU, your only making yourself sound even dumber then we thought you were in the first place. 94

PS.. What the hell does age have to do with wanting to drive fast cars, probably something else I know more about then you, and was doing when you where still playing with your tinker toys.

 

Why would I need to logg in as somebody else? As far as my expierence goes I'll let my bumpin *** system speak for itself. Im in the process of building a new system for my CRX right now and i'll let you droole over the picks when I get done and then we will take a look at some of you work and then we'll see whats up and I don't mean go download some pictures of someone elses **** either. I mean pics with you in them building something other than a square box or do you just use prefab enclosures? Also, tell me what was so incorrect about the first post I made in this thread. I would'nt be so definsive except you started in on me. I just told the dude that the Kicker amp was a good amp and that his subs would sound decient running it. He said he did'nt have much money to spend and that Kicker amp would have worked fine for 2 JL 10's. He could have wired it in series and it would have been fine, no it would'nt have raddled the windows out but as far as sound quality goes it would have sounded great. Everytime you lower the impedence you increase the THD and if there is distoration your gonna hear it more on some 10 than you would say some 15's. I don't know about you but sound quality is more important to me than SPL unless im building the system for SPL and ive been there done that. Just check he pics.


Modified by GElite at 11:37 PM 1/3/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ROFL Well I have been doing car audio for almost 35 years, [do you even know what an 8 track is] and I agree with LSRracing95 and not because he agrees with me, but because he is right and you are wrong, if you have been building systems for 15 years, don't quit your day job, and if installing car audio is your day job, then you should quit before you hurt yourself, the only thing in your post that is correct is when you said the P/G ZX600ti was a good amp, and no the Kicker amp is not stable to 1 ohm. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed.. the pg zx600ti is a nice amp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GElite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why would I need to logg in as somebody else? As far as my expierence goes I'll let my bumpin *** system speak for itself. Im in the process of building a new system for my CRX right now and i'll let you droole over the picks when I get done and then we will take a look at some of you work and then we'll see whats up and I don't mean go download some pictures of someone elses **** either. I mean pics with you in them building something other than a square box or do you just use prefab enclosures? Also, tell me what was so incorrect about the first post I made in this thread. I would'nt be so definsive except you started in on me. I just told the dude that the Kicker amp was a good amp and that his subs would sound decient running it. He said he did'nt have much money to spend and that Kicker amp would have worked fine for 2 JL 10's. He could have wired it in series and it would have been fine, no it would'nt have raddled the windows out but as far as sound quality goes it would have sounded great. Everytime you lower the impedence you increase the THD and if there is distoration your gonna hear it more on some 10 than you would say some 15's. I don't know about you but sound quality is more important to me than SPL unless im building the system for SPL and ive been there done that. I did a delivery truck with 24 12's and 16 15's sponcered by Hifonics, 6 Zeus and 4 Colosis amps. Nuf said!</TD></TR></TABLE>

that has to be a joke.. AHAHAHA

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GElite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude, that Kicker amp would do fine bro, in fack it will push the hell out of 2 10's. Kicker, Rockford, Phoenix Gold, JL Audio are all way underated. If it says 175 watts its probably more like 250 and I do believe your subs are listed as 300 watts max, the Kicker amp is pushing 175 rms and more like 250 to 300 peak power. Dude, just cause the subs say 300 watts dosent mean you have to put 300 watts to em. The new SoloBarics are like 2500watt subs but not too many people can afford to put 5000 watts in there ride to push too of em. I have pushed solobarics with 200watts and it tear the car apart. It really dosent have **** to do with wattage, its the amps that count. If you have a 1000watt amp but it has a 20amp fuse in it it aint worth ****. Work with what you got bro. And BTW, that kicker amp should be stable into 1ohm. Its not a cheap amp! In fact its a really good amp but if you want to go bigger check out ebay. I just picked up a Phoenix Gold ZX 600ti brand new for less than $200 shipped. I guess somebody bought it a few yers ago and just never used it. Most amps made today dont even compair to the zx600. Its one bad *** amp!</TD></TR></TABLE>

the fact that you are giving general rms wattage numbers and guesstimating their "true capabilities" is a joke in itself.

his subs are not 300watts max.. they are 300 watts thermal power handling or rms watts.

the kicker amp is not stable at one ohm.

and yeah great, put 200 watts on 2500 watt rms solobarics..
ill put 2500 on em and then we can see who enjoys them more.. you dont HAVE to put the recommended watts to your speakers but you might as well buy some pioneers from walmart if you are going to put 200 watts to em

 

Well, here is the link to the pictures of some of my **** in progress like I promised. Now lets see some of yours! http://www.hondahookup.com/for...88651

 

~Greetings To All,...~

"Ok well for the record this thread has totally took a nose dive for the worse,..!"

I would just like to say that GElite,...is correct,..1,...or 50 post,..!"So what is this
we base experience on online post numbers!"

In a perfect world we would all like to have the biggest baddest,....amp an subs,
we can imagine,...but it dont always work out like that,...!

I would also like to mention on PAPER,...you can calculate the performance of
your selected components,....and I would also like to mention,...that Theil an
Small hasn't been proved wrong yet.Whether you been doing car audio in some
small hick town for 35 years and think your the man or been slangen systems
out of your moms garage for 6 years,...AS long as its done CORRECT then IMO thats all that really matters.Its all in the math,...whether its damn 6 1/2s or 18s,
2 of em or hell 20 of them,...its what you do with what you GOT,...!!!

I would also like to just say,...that,....8s,10s,12s,15s,18s,22s,...32s,..an d etc,...
100watts,200watts,300watts,500watts,......1000watt s,and etc,..."Its all about what you do with what you got,.....!!!

Car Audio is flooded with THE CAR AUDIO GOD,......Theory,...!

THATS WHY I STICK WITH HOMES,...!

$$$$$$

 

Not Disrespect too no one,...but cant we all just get along,...!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyslin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">~Greetings To All,...~

"Ok well for the record this thread has totally took a nose dive for the worse,..!"

I would just like to say that GElite,...is correct,..1,...or 50 post,..!"So what is this
we base experience on online post numbers!"

In a perfect world we would all like to have the biggest baddest,....amp an subs,
we can imagine,...but it dont always work out like that,...!

I would also like to mention on PAPER,...you can calculate the performance of
your selected components,....and I would also like to mention,...that Theil an
Small hasn't been proved wrong yet.Whether you been doing car audio in some
small hick town for 35 years and think your the man or been slangen systems
out of your moms garage for 6 years,...AS long as its done CORRECT then IMO thats all that really matters.Its all in the math,...whether its damn 6 1/2s or 18s,
2 of em or hell 20 of them,...its what you do with what you GOT,...!!!

I would also like to just say,...that,....8s,10s,12s,15s,18s,22s,...32s,..an d etc,...
100watts,200watts,300watts,500watts,......1000watt s,and etc,..."Its all about what you do with what you got,.....!!!

Car Audio is flooded with THE CAR AUDIO GOD,......Theory,...!

THATS WHY I STICK WITH HOMES,...!

$$$$$$</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Home enviroments are much nicer to work with too! and dont rattle like a tin can full of stones !!!

Whats the point of big undecipherable bass when you cant hear anything else. all your doing is entertaining the neighborhood. - or anoying them.

i think there better things to be done with the money. than to go over the top on big bass and HUGE Speakers in a small tin box?? hmmmmmmmm

thats not to say dont stick in any base - you need a resonable amp to cover the transients in acoustic audio generation. - the whole car audio is fraught with distortion and power restrictions that affect true listening clarity.

the human hear has a peak listening response in the region of approx 500hz-4 khz - the same frequeny of a baby's cry - and aint that anoying.

remember there are amps rated in Peek Power and those in RMS. Power is also a logrithmic scale. so a 100w amp isnt much louder than 1000W amp, but there are certainly some other benifits

 

Man, I sure don't hear any body talking that smack now. I can only assume its because you looked at the pics and saw how fat that **** is. I gotta give props to my boy Tyslin cause its his design and we were working out of his shop up in Burlington, NC. He has people up there begging him to do there **** but he only does Home Theater and comercial audio now but me and him have been best friends and building systems together for over 15 years so he could'nt say no to me. Everything I know I learned from him. You gotta admit that **** is fat. Wait till its done. We havent even started the amp rack.........Hey fcm, where those pics at?

 

Alright FCM, you have had plenty of time to get some pics up. You do car audio for a living right? Eventhough you don't know much about real world applications im sure you have convinced somebody that you know whats up buy now. Thats wierd that you do car audio everyday but you dont have any pics or at least somebody that can say they have seen your work. At this point id be happy seeing some prefab **** that you did. Im starting to believe that your just some 13 year old kid that likes to quote sit out of a hifi magazine. Come on man, show me something! I don't expect it to be fat like my **** but show me something that proves you are who you say you are. I promise I wont laugh, well I probably will but you wont be able to hear me. You are serioustly dis-crediting youself by talking **** and not being able to back it up. Thats got to be embaressing!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GElite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got my subs the other day and the retard I got em from on ebay sent the wrong subs. I ordered the new Priemer TS-W106c SVC 4ohm 10's and I got the regular Pioneer TS-W256c 10's. There basically the same subs but the Priemers go thru a more rigerous inspection process and you get a 2 year warranty with Priemere as opposed to the regular Pioneer 1 year warranty. I told the dude he could either discount them substantually or exchange them. My friend Tyslin told me to get them from onlinecaraudio.com but I did'nt listen. I saved $20 but got the wrong subs and it took 3 weeks to get them. For some reason the 256c's cost like $10 more each than the Priemer's at onlinecaraudio.com. I can't figure out why. Here is some more pics with all the bracing in. Just need to glass te top and build the rack and i'll be bumpin my *** off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

^^^^ Quoted from your link you sent us of your mad hawt work y0

Do you seriously think that you will get a warranty when you bought those premiers off ebay? You obviously do not know too much about the industry if you think so.