best security tactic
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From: near the ocean, Moderator City, NJ
Re: (NOFX)
i think he's there already 
in all honesty, the link in the FAQ is pretty solid re: suggestions. If you need more than what is in there, you are living in Camden or Newark, NJ
in all honesty, the link in the FAQ is pretty solid re: suggestions. If you need more than what is in there, you are living in Camden or Newark, NJ
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Re: (angel_i)
LOL dont steal his car I bet he has Vtec installed in all of those guns as well lol.
Honestly your best bet for keeping your car from being stolen is alarm maybe a fuel killswitch see if you can get an immobilizer kit on your car with the alarm. A tire boot helps alot but they arent cheap and a pain in the *** sometimes. When its parked at your house at night keep it locked and block it in with other family members cars or park it a garage if you can. If you have to park in a lot or something park the car in front of the light post front of the car pointing at the poll use the E-brake and keep it in first gear.
Get a sensor for the interior of the car that detects movement for them to tow it they wil need to get into the car to get it out of gear or the tires will screach all the way up the truck if they try towing. Get another sensor that either detects the glass being broken or an angle sensor so if it changes the angle any from the way it was parked it will go off. My current setup is this no alarm yet but I had my rear tow hook removed completely so there is no real grabbing point back there. I have a killswitch on my fuel pump and on my engine to chassis ground wires. I park it the way I just stated wherever I go. And if I have to park on the street like at some of my girls freinds house that live in a ghetto area. I park it then have my freinds park there cars on either sides about an inch from each bumper.
Im not really worried about interioe things being stolen just the car and motor itself.
My uncle used to do repo for auto companies as a job and told me these are the ways to park it if you want the car to be kept from being towed away by either repo or thieves.
Honestly your best bet for keeping your car from being stolen is alarm maybe a fuel killswitch see if you can get an immobilizer kit on your car with the alarm. A tire boot helps alot but they arent cheap and a pain in the *** sometimes. When its parked at your house at night keep it locked and block it in with other family members cars or park it a garage if you can. If you have to park in a lot or something park the car in front of the light post front of the car pointing at the poll use the E-brake and keep it in first gear.
Get a sensor for the interior of the car that detects movement for them to tow it they wil need to get into the car to get it out of gear or the tires will screach all the way up the truck if they try towing. Get another sensor that either detects the glass being broken or an angle sensor so if it changes the angle any from the way it was parked it will go off. My current setup is this no alarm yet but I had my rear tow hook removed completely so there is no real grabbing point back there. I have a killswitch on my fuel pump and on my engine to chassis ground wires. I park it the way I just stated wherever I go. And if I have to park on the street like at some of my girls freinds house that live in a ghetto area. I park it then have my freinds park there cars on either sides about an inch from each bumper.
Im not really worried about interioe things being stolen just the car and motor itself.
My uncle used to do repo for auto companies as a job and told me these are the ways to park it if you want the car to be kept from being towed away by either repo or thieves.
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Re: best security tactic (ap1$2k)
I suggest you get an alarm system that has all those sensors or whatever, have a cheap backup alarm system hidden so if the cut off the main wire to the battery you'll have a another alarm system going on, maybe another hidden backup battery, a clutch & wheel locks, tire boots, or a kill-switch. there are no best security but it'll give you time to get to your car before it's down the street in less than 30 seconds...
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From: olympia, wa, usa
I dunno, maybe the ghetto I live in isnt as hard as most of the gun toting people, but my accord got stolen last march, no security besides locked doors. They found it a month later and I got one of those club things from a family member, neither of my hondas has been touched since. Granted my accord has most of the top end tore out and the belts and stuff off, the club has been a deterrent on my 96 ex, no touches yet.
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From: Lexington, SC, USA
Re: best security tactic (ap1$2k)
there is a security system that my friend has installed that may be what u want depending if ur willing to do time lol. if you are interested in a leathal car security system let me know
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what alarm is recommended that includes all these sensors? oklahoma isnt any more safer than living anywhere else. hondas are really popular around here and thieves have been a problem to a couple of my friends. (1 person got theirs stolen twice, same car different setup)
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Killswitch(es) and lock the steering column up when you leave ( when car is off and keys are removed, turn wheel to one side until it locks up, usualy takes about 1/4, to 1/3 a rotation)
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Re: (ap1$2k)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ap1$2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what alarm is recommended that includes all these sensors? oklahoma isnt any more safer than living anywhere else. hondas are really popular around here and thieves have been a problem to a couple of my friends. (1 person got theirs stolen twice, same car different setup)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Doesn't sound as bad as it is here.
My stock Civic was stolen. My boyfriend's Civic was broken into and left in the road. My friend's stock ITR was stolen two months after he got it, everything but the rear speakers were stripped off of it. They cut out the ITR badges on the quarter panels. Then then cut the car into six pieces and dropped them a mile apart down I-5.
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Doesn't sound as bad as it is here.
My stock Civic was stolen. My boyfriend's Civic was broken into and left in the road. My friend's stock ITR was stolen two months after he got it, everything but the rear speakers were stripped off of it. They cut out the ITR badges on the quarter panels. Then then cut the car into six pieces and dropped them a mile apart down I-5.
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Re: (King V)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by King V »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow NOFX, sounds like the only reason those cars got stolen was to trash them. That's irritating as hell.... 
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I could maybe understand my boyfriend's car and my friend's car, but I'm not from around here. My boyfriend's modified hatch was next to mine when mine was stolen. Mine had GSR blades on Integra tires (we think that, or the fact that the thieves were stupid and thought it was an Si is why it was stolen). So my car looked really goofy on stock suspension and Integra tires and it was still taken. It was like a one inch lift.
I had only been here for two months when that happened. When a coworker found out, he told me he used to be a car thief and that if I didn't want my car stolen (you know... the one I bought three years before in Delaware - where I've heard of one stolen car ever, which didn't even belong to anyone I knew), that I shouldn't have bought a Honda.
The OP stands to learn more from the security section than the '92-'00 Civic tech section.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I could maybe understand my boyfriend's car and my friend's car, but I'm not from around here. My boyfriend's modified hatch was next to mine when mine was stolen. Mine had GSR blades on Integra tires (we think that, or the fact that the thieves were stupid and thought it was an Si is why it was stolen). So my car looked really goofy on stock suspension and Integra tires and it was still taken. It was like a one inch lift.
I had only been here for two months when that happened. When a coworker found out, he told me he used to be a car thief and that if I didn't want my car stolen (you know... the one I bought three years before in Delaware - where I've heard of one stolen car ever, which didn't even belong to anyone I knew), that I shouldn't have bought a Honda.
The OP stands to learn more from the security section than the '92-'00 Civic tech section.
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Re: (ap1$2k)
layers, layers, layers.
I use my recaros as a nice layer. I unlatch the seat and push it up against the steering wheel, then lock it to the wheel. What a pain in the *** for a thief! There gonna have to saw through the steering wheel before even attempting to wire the car.
Fuel kill switches are nice but many thieves are aware of this trick. (use of batteries, or wiring pump with cig. lighter) Try killing something like the clutch, be creative. Of course a kill switch is only as effective as the install, be stealth.
I use my recaros as a nice layer. I unlatch the seat and push it up against the steering wheel, then lock it to the wheel. What a pain in the *** for a thief! There gonna have to saw through the steering wheel before even attempting to wire the car.
Fuel kill switches are nice but many thieves are aware of this trick. (use of batteries, or wiring pump with cig. lighter) Try killing something like the clutch, be creative. Of course a kill switch is only as effective as the install, be stealth.
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Re: (Unbreakable6161)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unbreakable6161 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Try killing something like the clutch, be creative. Of course a kill switch is only as effective as the install, be stealth.
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A clutch kill switch isn't a horrid idea, but not all that hard to bypass.
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A clutch kill switch isn't a horrid idea, but not all that hard to bypass.
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Re: (suspendedHatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suspendedHatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A kill switch is the best bang-for-your-buck addition to a stealth-installed alarm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (Unbreakable6161)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unbreakable6161 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">layers, layers, layers.
I use my recaros as a nice layer. I unlatch the seat and push it up against the steering wheel, then lock it to the wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like you already.
Every kill switch is easy to bypass. A switch is a switch. Join the poles together and it's bypassed. Same thing with a relay. The whole idea behind a kill switch or start kill relay is that IT SHOULD NEVER BE FOUND, and to have multiple kills so that they can't be diagnosed. For instance, if the engine cranks, but doesn't start, right off the bat it's an ignition and/or fuel kill. If it doesn't crank at all, it could be a start kill, main relay kill, clutch kill / neutral safety kill. That's why I always do one of both.
I use my recaros as a nice layer. I unlatch the seat and push it up against the steering wheel, then lock it to the wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like you already.
Every kill switch is easy to bypass. A switch is a switch. Join the poles together and it's bypassed. Same thing with a relay. The whole idea behind a kill switch or start kill relay is that IT SHOULD NEVER BE FOUND, and to have multiple kills so that they can't be diagnosed. For instance, if the engine cranks, but doesn't start, right off the bat it's an ignition and/or fuel kill. If it doesn't crank at all, it could be a start kill, main relay kill, clutch kill / neutral safety kill. That's why I always do one of both.
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Re: (suspendedHatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suspendedHatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I like you already.
Every kill switch is easy to bypass. A switch is a switch. Join the poles together and it's bypassed. Same thing with a relay. The whole idea behind a kill switch or start kill relay is that IT SHOULD NEVER BE FOUND, and to have multiple kills so that they can't be diagnosed. For instance, if the engine cranks, but doesn't start, right off the bat it's an ignition and/or fuel kill. If it doesn't crank at all, it could be a start kill, main relay kill, clutch kill / neutral safety kill. That's why I always do one of both.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha
One of each is what I have right now, though one switch is mounted close the brain... so he finds brain (which he'll go for first) he finds switch... stupid on my part
changing that ASAP.
I try to find a location that has oem looming close by, tap into the wire as far into the dash as possible and feed the wires through the stock looming.
I like you already.
Every kill switch is easy to bypass. A switch is a switch. Join the poles together and it's bypassed. Same thing with a relay. The whole idea behind a kill switch or start kill relay is that IT SHOULD NEVER BE FOUND, and to have multiple kills so that they can't be diagnosed. For instance, if the engine cranks, but doesn't start, right off the bat it's an ignition and/or fuel kill. If it doesn't crank at all, it could be a start kill, main relay kill, clutch kill / neutral safety kill. That's why I always do one of both.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha
One of each is what I have right now, though one switch is mounted close the brain... so he finds brain (which he'll go for first) he finds switch... stupid on my part
changing that ASAP. I try to find a location that has oem looming close by, tap into the wire as far into the dash as possible and feed the wires through the stock looming.
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Re: (Unbreakable6161)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unbreakable6161 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hahaha
One of each is what I have right now, though one switch is mounted close the brain... so he finds brain (which he'll go for first) he finds switch... stupid on my part changing that ASAP.
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I don't get why a thief would go for the alarm brain itself. The alarm brain alone does little except add convenience features and interface with the sensors and siren. I could go in depth to what I'd do if I was a thief stealing a honda, but I don't want to give anyone any bright ideas
Thankfully my dash is out at the moment, so I plan on burying the start and ignition kill pretty deep.
hahaha
One of each is what I have right now, though one switch is mounted close the brain... so he finds brain (which he'll go for first) he finds switch... stupid on my part
changing that ASAP. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't get why a thief would go for the alarm brain itself. The alarm brain alone does little except add convenience features and interface with the sensors and siren. I could go in depth to what I'd do if I was a thief stealing a honda, but I don't want to give anyone any bright ideas
Thankfully my dash is out at the moment, so I plan on burying the start and ignition kill pretty deep.
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Re: (8520)
Its more so for my situation. I kept everything together in order to keep the install stealth and well organized. In order to bypass the specific kills I've done, their gonna have to find the brain. Once they find the brain/kills/backupbattery.. well thats what the kill switches are for.
Mount that brain on the firewall!
Mount that brain on the firewall!