thinknology

I'm, looking for new cams for my b16 crx and was thinking of going with gsr's i know ctr/itr will produce more power but just seems to be alot more money, how big of a power differance are they gsr-(ctr/itr) i know ctr makes a couple extra horse compared to itr because of the intake but just an average number, when i do decided to install them do i need anything else if i plan on keeping my stock rev(if went with ctr), differant cam gears? and such...

devnull

The GSR cams won't give you much more then stock. I would go with the CTR cams. and getting cam gears could be good cause you can tune for a little more power.

dfoxengr

buy my jdm gsr cams for 150 shipped

ctr or itr cams wont give you much more power than gsr cams though...something to think about.

thinknology

anyone know the adverage hp differance between gsr and ctr(rev. limit not raised)

UncleD

iTrader: (2)

More lift, more duration. Man, if you wanna do gsr cams you must be way desperate on making cheap horsepower....don't even waste your time. And as far as buying ctr's and then buying cam gears, you won't make any more power with cam gears unless you strap your car onto a dyno, and that cost money. Seriously man, how much longer will it take you to save for a type r over a damn gsr camshaft

thinknology

i was just wondering what the differances were thats why im doing some research before going out and buying something, knowledge is power... i wouldnt be asking if i didnt know and didnt want to know

Rollo Lawson

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ctr or itr cams wont give you much more power than gsr cams though...something to think about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah o.k. that would be the biggest waste of money. gsr cams are worth $50 bux, and, ctr's or itr's make a good amount more power than gsr's when tuned. that was some whack advise.

dfoxengr

im talking on a stock b16. they will not make mounds more hp than even the stock b16 cams.
but im sure you knw more than i do. sorry for steppin on your toes

itsallmotor

I asked the same question a while back either on here or on the rocket forums because at the time I thought I was going to be getting a set for very cheap, and the general reply that I got was that it was worth the money at least for now, and they aren't difficult to sell when you move on to better cams. Depending on what you're planning to spend on them, I'd say do it.

Grip

get ctr cams for now then when you want to upgrade spend 440 bucks and get a jun 2 intake cam

thinknology

i was thinking about getting ctr's but i just didnt want to spend 200 extra bucks for 1 more horse thats why i was debating becuase i cant seem to find the differances

Grip

ctr cams are way better then gsr cams..gsr cams are a waste of money all together.. you can get ctr cams new for 500 bucks or less

dfoxengr

on a stock motor i cant see ctrs making more than 5-7 whp over gsrs.

thinknology

Finally!! someone who answered my question even if your not exactly right atleast i have a good guess thanx!

Rollo Lawson

[QUOTE=hybridvteceg]im talking on a stock b16. they will not make mounds more hp than even the stock b16 cams.
but im sure you knw more than i do. sorry for steppin on your toes

i'm not offended, i just feel differently. if the ctr's are tuned, like i first stated (cam gears & vafc or Hondata) the difference is very noticeable. i've seen 9whp & 6wtq over b16 cams with very little tuning.

Rollo Lawson

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dfoxengr

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try some tuned gsr cams. itll be right in the middleof the b16 and ctrs. like i said not a huge difference

thinknology

but if further modications are made i believe that the ctr would provide a better power by a good amount ....in the long run

thinknology

alright how bout this someone told me that if i was going with forced induction, gsr cams would be better than ctr because although they dont have as high lift they have a longer lift duration with which to cram more in.... whats the deal with that.

civicgsr19

This is somewhat true, CTR cams have more lift but alot of overlap,overlap is not good for FI since you would just be letting boost out.You could get rid of the overlap by adjusting the cam gears.GSR have slight overlap and still have okay lift plus they are designed for a low vtec point.. So if you dont want to have alot of tuning ahead of you get the GSR cam, But if you dont mind tuning get the CTR cams.My choice would be CTR cams of coarse, gsr cams just wont be worth the troble to swap for a NA setup.

thinknology

I realise NA CTR cams are the way to go but FI they sound almost equal the way u put it

thinknology

am i right?