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Old 08-25-2011, 06:56 PM
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Looking good! Nice clean fresh head you got there!
You gonna run one of those fancy thermal intake manifold gaskets, right
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Yep. Its in my pile o' parts.
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I love it
So clean!!
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Comin' along....

Ended up doing it over with the RS Machine pistons after all. I had the felling I would want to cam it later on down the road and didn't want to come up short on compression.

Got the long block assembled this weekend.

Regarding spark plugs, I'm thinking I'll probably go at least one heat range colder than stock. I usually run bkr7e-11 on my high comp vtec builds. What are you non vtec guys using?
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no more up dates??
Old 12-03-2011, 12:45 AM
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Motor is all put together, I haven't had any time to even look at the thing for the last two months. I'm hoping to get it in this winter break, just started ordering a few things yesterday. Updates soon!
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in for updates. i daily drove an 11.5:1 b20 with brian crower st2 cams for a while. still have the block together and healthy for future fun
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in for updates cuz I have the same block and head, just with boost..

im thinking about selling off the turbo kit and going the YCP route.

I already have cams, port matched IM to 68mm TB, I just want to switch out the pistons, header and oil pan and roll to the dyno for tune.


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Well, I thought I had some pics of the completed long block around, but I don't.

Here's some of the rest of the parts as the resto came along, I'll snap a couple of the finished motor this week.

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Header before:



Next project is to get my GS-R trans cleaned up, new seals and boots on the way too:



And then Civic EX harness I picked up is apart now:



All my sleeving supplies should be here tomorrow. I ordered a PLX sm-afr gen2, which I will be integrating into the harness along with removing the vtec wiring. I need to find a few plugs and a handful of pins, it ends up being kind of an obd2a/b hybrid harness with the mix of CR-V and Integra plugs going into the '00 Civic chassis.
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Nice updates, nice to see you choose to go with the RS machine piston's.
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Originally Posted by blackeg
in for updates. i daily drove an 11.5:1 b20 with brian crower st2 cams for a while. still have the block together and healthy for future fun
how was this set up??thinking of putting st 2 cams as well in my b20b with a p8r head..
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can't wait to get a b20z for my DD eg.
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Originally Posted by ecko_3420
how was this set up??thinking of putting st 2 cams as well in my b20b with a p8r head..
it was alright. made 154/132 on the dyno with a 2" axleback in efforts to avoid police and ricer attention. it really didnt have much below about 5krpm, then it pulled like a gsr with bolt ons. i did have it in a full weight da teg with an ls trans.

i sold the complete head to a friend who put it on his turbo car. same thing. really doesnt pick up till 5000 but it pulls nice after that. you will make more power than i did with that p8r head.


to the original poster, i honestly wouldnt mess around with it on 87 octane. the price difference at the end of the year is only like 150 to 200 bucks. worth it imo to be safer and allow you to make a little more power by having a tad more timing in the tune. what program are you going to tune it with?
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Love this thread! It hard to find good info on B20 non-vtec builds. I've been researching these for years and no luck. What IM are you gonna run? I remember seeing years back on here a guy ran a modded stock GSR IM on an All Motor LS build. It helped bottom end power. I think he use a vtec ecu to activate the butterflies.
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Not to hijack the thread, but where would one find replacement intake valves for a P8R if you bent one? I know there 33mm, but I think the stem length is diffrent from Vtec ones.
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I heard the old prelude valves are the same as the P8R.. look up the P8R threads and i think its on there
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Originally Posted by EsotericImage
I heard the old prelude valves are the same as the P8R.. look up the P8R threads and i think its on there
I actually just read through an old thread and found that out. Thanks
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Originally Posted by blackeg
to the original poster, i honestly wouldnt mess around with it on 87 octane. the price difference at the end of the year is only like 150 to 200 bucks. worth it imo to be safer and allow you to make a little more power by having a tad more timing in the tune. what program are you going to tune it with?
Yeah that went out the window once the I ordered the RS pistons. If I had been able to keep the cr around 10.2:1 or so I wouldn't have thought twice about though. Eventually planning on running Neptune, but for now I'm just going to get a basemap from phearable. Already have a couple of chipped p28's laying around.

Originally Posted by washpawryder
Love this thread! It hard to find good info on B20 non-vtec builds. I've been researching these for years and no luck. What IM are you gonna run? I remember seeing years back on here a guy ran a modded stock GSR IM on an All Motor LS build. It helped bottom end power. I think he use a vtec ecu to activate the butterflies.
Running a p75 manifold for now, had one and my P8R came with one too. Might switch to a p30 sometime in the future, I also have a usdm p73 that I most likely won't be re-using but I need to get it running and see what it likes first.
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Time to get my wiring going. Got my wideband and all of my loom and shrink tube. Waiting on my pins and injector clips to show up sometime this week. Rounded up the handful of connector shells I needed to get the job done from spare parts.

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And this is where it sits:

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I'm not expecting huge power out of it, just good power under the curve for a fun DD setup. Should be fun.
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Progress, engine off the stand, clutch and transmission on:





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i have a similar setup to this n making 213hp... with b20b and p75 head.


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