b19coupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Other than the bolt tensil strength, what is different? It's not weight, it's not material, it's not size, it's not shot peening, so what is it? </TD></TR></TABLE>
They are <FONT COLOR="red"><FONT SIZE="6">Type R</FONT></FONT> rods!

DonF

I forgot. LOL I would get Spoon rods, but they are expensive. Worth it, but expensive, especially matched with Spoon type"R" pistons.

Hybrid96EK

Honda lists the rods as "high durability" and also "lightened". I suppose they have no idea what they are talking about. Ask yourself why they would waste the money in a new casting if the rods were simply the same as GSR rods? Did they make a new oil pump for the R? A new crank girdle? A new water pump? A new thermostat housing? etc.. They have different part numbers in the book as well. Yes, the bolts themselves are certainly different. I did not weigh mine before I installed them, so I cannot say they are indeed lighter or not. I do know Honda claims them to be lighter.

4g hatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I forgot. LOL I would get Spoon rods, but they are expensive. Worth it, but expensive, especially matched with Spoon type"R" pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

jdm baby, for life

b19coupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid96EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Did they make a new oil pump for the R?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. Same part number.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid96EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> A new crank girdle? </TD></TR></TABLE>
No. Same as GSR.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid96EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A new water pump? </TD></TR></TABLE>
No. Same.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1997 Acura Integra Type R Technical Information Guide &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As in the GS-R, the rods are constructed of special high-strength steel for a rigid yet light-weight component.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't get me wrong, I love my ITR.
The special JDM fairy dust that they sprinkled on it makes it really fast!

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No. Same part number.

No. Same as GSR.

No. Same.

Don't get me wrong, I love my ITR.
The special JDM fairy dust that they sprinkled on it makes it really fast!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then perhaps the "high strength" comes from the cap bolts? Why would they cast an entirely new rod simply for changed cap bolts? Because the bearing codes are different on the sides?

gsrjake95

i have stock rods and bolts, my car stops making power at 8900 according to my dyno. I've been revving to 8700 for about 4000 miles now and have had no problems. Get your car dyno'd and go from there. I good dyno shop will be able to tell you when your car stops making power, from there set your rev limiter to that rpm and shift about 200 rpm less. Seems to work great for me.

slofu

parts labeled 'R' fall from the sky, emptied directly from the bowels of Soichiro's angel; their value is transcendental. that we are so graced with the ability to purchase them should not be taken in vain by questioning them in any way.

ekBlackHatch

im trying to figure out why you want to rev that high on a regular basis? are you just trying to rev high to empress your friends if so consider just buying a yamaha r1 then you can rev the **** out of it and not worry. Most cams are not going to make alot of power that high anyway unless your going with some endyne bumpsticks or somthing what cams are you running

ekBlackHatch

o ya and the parts listed are the same

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekBlackHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im trying to figure out why you want to rev that high on a regular basis? are you just trying to rev high to empress your friends if so consider just buying a yamaha r1 then you can rev the **** out of it and not worry. Most cams are not going to make alot of power that high anyway unless your going with some endyne bumpsticks or somthing what cams are you running</TD></TR></TABLE>

9 grand? Its not entirely up to the cams to make power up that high and I have seen plenty of setups that can still "make" power at 8,600rpms or so. 9 grand isn't that rediculous. 10 grand on the other hand is another story.

jcvelez360

i got stage 2 sk2 cams, how highthose makes power??

ekBlackHatch

did i say he is not going to ever make power at 9grand.... no read a lil better and ill try spelling a little better and maybe there will be less confusion i know you can make power past 9 but i doubt he will depending on his setup witch has not been defined

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekBlackHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did i say he is not going to ever make power at 9grand.... no read a lil better and ill try spelling a little better and maybe there will be less confusion i know you can make power past 9 but i doubt he will depending on his setup witch has not been defined</TD></TR></TABLE>

Calm down there internet tough guy. You questioned why he wanted to rev to 9 grand to begin with. That indicated to me that you either didn't have an understanding of the ability to make power this high or just wanted to be a *****. Seems the later option might have been your real motive.

jcvelez360

ok i got a b18c1 on a ek. b i got two harmonic balancers stok b16a2 d stok b18c1 wich i have to use i have everiting on the car p/s, air ec..???????????

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jcvelez360 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i got a b18c1 on a ek. b i got two harmonic balancers stok b16a2 d stok b18c1 wich i have to use i have everiting on the car p/s, air ec..???????????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pick one. Both balancers were made for 8,000rpm engines and should be very similar in size if not the same.

jcvelez360

the problem is that im not sure if all the belts it, because originali The car had a b16 and everithin p/s, air etc... now i got the b18c1 so i nt now if i need the b16 o b18 harmonic to have everithing working properli

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jcvelez360 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the problem is that im not sure if all the belts it, because originali The car had a b16 and everithin p/s, air etc... now i got the b18c1 so i nt now if i need the b16 o b18 harmonic to have everithing working properli</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do they not look physically the same? You can run either of those pulleys without problems. The thing to look for is the diameter of the different pulleys. They are setup for the appropriate engine they are going to be on based off max rpm to avoid over driving alt/PS/AC. Those two pulleys should look very similar in size. EITHER WILL WORK.

mtny

This thread makes my head hurt.