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Old 10-02-2008, 09:06 AM
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Fabricating some custom pipes for my s4. Not long ago I found some sleeves that wrap around the pipes so you could ajoin/align two ends for mock up purposes. They come in differant diameters and clamp to the pipe using some sort of latch device. They also have small gaps so you can tac weld the joint when everything is lined up to your liking. Does anyone know what they are called or where I can purchase them. -thanks
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Sounds like a wiggins clamp.
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they are pipe masters.

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i would like to know also. sounds like it would be alot better than what i have been using in the past
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Yeah its not the pipe master. I already have a set and it slides up and down the pipe used for knotching. The one I found looks nearly identicle but is slimmer in design and is solely for mock up. I found some internal ones but they wont hold the pipes together they are soley for alignment. If you know anything about s4's the piping is rediculous. And a garage floor is far from ideal for running the exhaust and charge piping.
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I think I see those at the local welding shop. Are they yellow?

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mmm.... aren't S4's fun ! What size turbo's are you planning on running ?

Is this what you are looking for ...


http://www.vansantent.com/tube_positioners.htm


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Old 10-02-2008, 03:08 PM
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I think he is talking about these:
http://www.verociousmotorsport...lding

Seem really pricey though.
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Tig tac clamps yes! they are the **** we looked all over for them and i asked tom from vertex aka verocious motorsports to see if he could locate them and he did thats why they carry them now. Pretty expensive though
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those clamps are really cool but too expensive same **** as those manifold legos.

bigkvn77 - have you used drilled hose clamps?
Old 10-02-2008, 07:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by x SPY x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mmm.... aren't S4's fun ! What size turbo's are you planning on running ?

Is this what you are looking for ...
Modified by x SPY x at 4:07 PM 10/2/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fun to drive, Not to work on. I've already fab'd headers for a pair of gt25r's (surprisingly ez) Now the fun part running all the charge piping and exhaust.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ATSMATT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think I see those at the local welding shop. Are they yellow?
Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think they are color coded by size. I only have roberts oxygen and airgas near me and they don't carry them. They looked at me funny when I was trying to explain to them what I was looking for.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ROTARY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those clamps are really cool but too expensive same **** as those manifold legos.

Nope I haven't tried that. I think im just going to split a pipe into thirds tack it to 2 t-clamps and just use that. Some of the spaces where the pipe has to run has minimal clearance.

bigkvn77 - have you used drilled hose clamps?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Go to autozone/pepboyz/napa/whomever, find the exhaust section, find a wrap around clamp or similar, punch a hole in it with a big drill bit. Clamp it around the pipe, tac weld, rotate the clamp, tac weld, etc.
Of course the drawback is that some of those clamps can be a little on the big side.
I haven't actually gone to the store and bought them myself, I just have a random assortment of them from working on other people's cars. I think they normally go for around $10 a piece.


Edit: kind of like these, what I did was punch 3 holes in it. Then I can put a few tack welds at once, rotate it, put a few more, and be done with that joint.



If you want to make your life easier, tack on a wing nut. No tool tightening FTW. :D
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great idea NILES!!!
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great idea i think thats what im going to do
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This must be what you're talking about :





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVzX8KMe-lg

http://www.icengineworks.com/icewtackingclamps.htm

And I hear you on the S4 being a pain to work on, I've done many S4 kits, and even squeezed two GT2871Rs in there.






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Default Re: (Agtronic)

GT kits are a dime a dozen now adays.. no squeezing invovled they fit just like stock pretty much.

&lt;has an s4 (stg3+)

single turbo construction on the way in a few weeks once i receive my longblock

talk about a tight squeeze.. single 35 or 40R


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Agtronic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This must be what you're talking about :


And I hear you on the S4 being a pain to work on, I've done many S4 kits, and even squeezed two GT2871Rs in there.

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lol dont mind the shop vac hose.


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Oooooh, now those are a really good idea for where you can't get a straight clamp across. I might have to grab a half dozen or so of those when released.
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Wow, those ice engine works clamps look super handy and well though out, hopefully they are reasonable in price.
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