cruizer

I was just about to order ESP mounts when i stumbled across Hardrace mounts on eBay. They are hardened rubber mounts instead of poly-urethane AND they come with 4 mounts instead of just 3 like ESP and Innovative. Another reason why i even considered these is I really dont want the harsh vibration but i want better traction so i think these Hardrace mounts will be satisfying, anyone ever dealt with them?? point me to a review of them maybe? cause i've been searching google and found nothing good

street_ride14

A generic brand for motor mounts equals trouble. How can you compare companies such as ESP and Innovative to something with no name on eBay ?? ESP and Innovative get my vote for motor mounts, they have different hardness mounts to choose for type of driving you will do most of.

They sell you 3 motor mounts because they feel that you wouldn't need the 4th up front, but if you're worried about it just put the Stock front mount back on. Many would agree that the front mount is the weakest one and does nothing when you upgrade the other three.

cruizer

Hardrace isnt generic...at least i dont think they are...they just offer more support to civics and integras, i see your point though

M2B4

Honestly its not that bad. Ive had the gray innovative mounts (85a) installed on my car for over a year. Yes there is a little more vibration, but i only notice it because im missing some screws on the dash plate above the gauges. Dont get me wrong when i first installed them i thought my car was going to break, but after being worn in a little its not bad at all.

cruizer

o ok, thats good to hear...i just ordered ESP mounts and according to their website they use 70A Polyurethane....im gonna take a wild guess and say that means they WONT be as stiff as your 85A...correct?

jlude90

yeah, 75 isn't bad.

M2B4

yeah the lower the number the less harsh. innovative sells 75,85,95. when i bought mine they didnt have the 95

cruizer

that makes me feel alot better lol....now i REALLY cant wait to get the ESP mounts....saturday i was adding seafoam to my brake booster line and the motor was shaking so bad i think my skunk2 manifold might have touched the firewall...only the front mount is broken though, which means the others are going out...thanks for the input guys

teefunk01

stiffer mounts might be uncomfortable but less movement = less breakage