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Old 08-28-2009, 10:40 AM
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Turn the crank pulley several revolutions (only counterclockwise) and then bring the cams to the TDC1 position shown in the diagram below. Do the cams perfectly achieve this TDC1 position? If so, when the cams are perfectly positioned at TDC1, is the crank pulley also perfectly positioned at TDC1 at this moment?

In addition, is it possible that you forgot to install the small metal key that holds the crank pulley in the proper position on the crankshaft?



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the tdc mark on the crank pully is the one mark away from teh group of 3 marks correct? my pulley doesnt have any colored marks on it any more.
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Originally Posted by simplistickusto
the tdc mark on the crank pully is the one mark away from teh group of 3 marks correct? my pulley doesnt have any colored marks on it any more.
Yes, the white TDC1 mark on the crank pulley is separated from the group of three marks (middle one used to set ignition timing).
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ok update on the car. timeing was off. now set. still will not start. rechecked spark and have good spark. checked injector pulse and am only getting about 2 pulses then nothing. check a23 adn a24 powedr grounds on pcm. both go to ground. any ideas on why injector pulse stops after about 2? sometimes i can get it to come back intermittently? i think im about there just need to figure out injector pulse issue.
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Lets go back to the basics. Do you have a alarm with starter kill? (I hate alarms)
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Originally Posted by simplistickusto
ok update on the car. timeing was off. now set. still will not start. rechecked spark and have good spark. checked injector pulse and am only getting about 2 pulses then nothing. check a23 adn a24 powedr grounds on pcm. both go to ground. any ideas on why injector pulse stops after about 2? sometimes i can get it to come back intermittently? i think im about there just need to figure out injector pulse issue.

With the key in ON(II), do all four fuel injector connectors have battery voltage on the Yel/Blk wire?

Does the fuel pump prime?
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Ron is doing his best to get you to look into a possible fuel delivery problem and i def. second him on this one. My car did a similiar thing when it was running very rich right after I got it. Turned out that the rich condition like you mentioned caused the plugs to foul. You might try a new set of plugs. But focus on fuel delivery for know. On the fuel filter there is a small bolt that can be taken off on the engine side of the filter. Most fuel pressure gauges have a fitting that will tap into this. If yours doesn't harbor freight will sell you the gauge and everything for ten bucks. Screw that in and watch it the whole time you are trying to get it to start or when it dies. 50psi is too high something is wrong there should be between 34-42 with a stock pump and fpr.
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did you ever get this started? i got the exact same problem
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ok car still wont start. have power voltage to the injectors but am loosing the ground pulse from the pcm after 1 or 2 pulses on start up. fuel pressure is good. i have checked the grounds at the ecu and they are good. not sure why the engeine is loosing injector pulse. i have also installed a different main relay. no change.
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Run wires to ground main relay/ECU wires A23 and A24 directly to the thermostat housing. If the engine now starts, swap in a known good ECU.
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so remove pins a23 and a24 and put in wires dirctly to thermostat housing? i checked continuity from these wire to ground and both are good.
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check your map sensor and its voltage
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Originally Posted by simplistickusto
so remove pins a23 and a24 and put in wires dirctly to thermostat housing? i checked continuity from these wire to ground and both are good.
The ECU provides ground for both wires. If it doesn't, the engine won't start. Figure out how to ground both wires to the thermostat housing. If the engine starts, the ECU is probably bad.
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The ECU provides ground for both wires. If it doesn't, the engine won't start. Figure out how to ground both wires to the thermostat housing. If the engine starts, the ECU is probably bad.
ok removed wire from teh harness at the ecu. grounded both wire to the thermostat housing adn engien now does not fire at all. before it would fire once or twice but with these unhooked i get nothing.
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ok guys got it running. when swapping the motor plugger the tps adn map backwards. runs adn revs but still have a miss to it. gonna set the tps voltage adn ignition timing and recheck. also gonna put in a new set of plugs. ill let everyone know how it goes. thanks for all the help.
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definitly sounds like your timing is off recheck your marks they should look like this http://media.photobucket.com/image/g.../ht/timing.gif
there from a gsr but a b16 should be similar..
good luck
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Glad to hear you sorted it out. So swapping the TPS and MAP sensor connectors did not throw any CEL codes? Try resetting the ECU to see if it helps with the missing.
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in no way, shape, or form, is it possible to install a b-series honda distributor, aftermarket or oem, backwards . . . the notch of off-center therefore, impossible to install 180 degrees off
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but, my friend is having this same problem, b16a2 swapped into an EK DX hatch, ran fine 3 months ago, now won't fire . . .
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