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Old 07-13-2004, 07:32 AM
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Default Look at this video of my timing belt...good or bad??

Ever since I bought my car I've noticed that the idle is somewhat "noisy". Upon inspection, I can see that the timing belt seems to have a lot of flappage/flex, which I think is causing the excessive noise. How bad is this? What does it take to replace the tensioner pulley? Would the entire TB have to be removed?

Here's the vid (844kb digicam quality crank up your volume):

http://members.***.net/ebelp/TB%20vid%20small.WMV
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The exhaust side should be tighter than the intake side and the intake side should have about 1/2" of flexibility.
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get a Helms to get the proper specs.

ITR motors are noisy. Usually its just the injectors ticking. If the timing belt is flapping, then you need to measure its movement to see if it needs to be adjusted. I doubt thats the source of the noise though.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blykins &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the intake side should have about 1/2" of flexibility.</TD></TR></TABLE>

which if roughly guessing it appears to!
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Default Re: Look at this video of my timing belt...good or bad?? (B18C-Rsi)

It seems to be more than that to me....I dunno...maybe I'm just paranoid. I guess a valve adjustment should be in my future plans. I wouldn't describe the noise as a "ticking" sound though...I'd call it more of a "rattling".
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ebelp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It seems to be more than that to me....I dunno...maybe I'm just paranoid. I guess a valve adjustment should be in my future plans. I wouldn't describe the noise as a "ticking" sound though...I'd call it more of a "rattling". </TD></TR></TABLE>

looks like a bit much to me also. just check it's tension per the specs and you'll have your answer.

For what it's worth, you CAN hear a TB when it gets real loose.
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Default Re: Look at this video of my timing belt...good or bad?? (Dave-ROR)

Does anyone know what the torque specs are on the tensioner?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ebelp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone know what the torque specs are on the tensioner?</TD></TR></TABLE>

45 ft-lbs.

Turn the crank a few degrees and then tighten the tensioner bolt.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

45 ft-lbs.

Turn the crank a few degrees and then tighten the tensioner bolt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh...I guess I'd need to turn the crank a few degrees CCW since I'd be tightening the tensioner CW, right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ebelp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh...I guess I'd need to turn the crank a few degrees CCW since I'd be tightening the tensioner CW, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uh... turn the crank the direction its supposed to be turned... whichever way that is

RJ - still half asreep
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Default Re: Look at this video of my timing belt...good or bad?? (.RJ)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Uh... turn the crank the direction its supposed to be turned... whichever way that is

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The crank turns counterclockwise.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">45 ft-lbs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
45?

I could have thunk it was 40..
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Will is right, 45 is for the older b-piles (b18a).
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and 130 for the crank pulley...

I just swapped my belt/tensioner this past Sunday.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just swapped my belt/tensioner this past Sunday.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and 130 for the crank pulley...

I just swapped my belt/tensioner this past Sunday. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I need to do mine (plus water pump) in another 10k or so. I think I'll just start riding the bus cause I'm too ******* lazy to work on my ****.
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it does look a little loose, but was the car warm? i noticed mine looks like it is a little loos euntil its warm
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Default Re: Look at this video of my timing belt...good or bad?? (Dave-ROR)

lazy = me.

~72,000 easy miles on mine = time to swap it.

the water pump felt ok so that will wait till the head comes off.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it does look a little loose, but was the car warm? i noticed mine looks like it is a little loos euntil its warm </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I had just started up the car.
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