_Endless_

i still have a smoking problem on my car. it blows bluish smoke out of the tail pipe whenever i drive around. everytime i drive around boosting or no boosting then i stop at the light or just parked it with the engine still running, bluish smoke comes out of the tailpipe sometimes lots of it. but if i started the car cold or if i let the car rest for a long time after driving it, there's no smoke at all, only when i drive it around.

i took my charge pipe off and there's no traces of oil in it. the compressor side was also very clean. so it's more on the exhaust side.

i tried draining my oil thinking that i've put too much oil but that didn't fix it. i changed my return line making sure that it's new and without kink and that didn't fix it. i cleaned my PCV and that didn't fix it too.

i've no time to bring it to a mechanic yet and some people tell me it's my rings and some people said that it's the turbo seal and i'm confused as to which.

i called the local distributor of garrett turbochargers from where i live to inquire about rebuilt kit and the guy told me that if it's the turbo seal then i would also experience smoking during idle.

i hope people with this kind of experience or maybe have an idea about this to chime in and tell me if it's the rings or the turbo seal.

any help will be appreciated.

Flamenco-T

while at idle, take out the dipstick, if smokes comes out of there, you may have a cracked/weak ringlands.

stan

youngkow

Same thing happened to me. Checked my charge pipes, and no trace of oil. So I started to tear into my engine, and when I took my downpipe off BAM! there was oil in the exhaust side. Never thought to check that becuase everyone checks the charge pipes. So check your exhaust side. Hopefully its your turbo, and not your rings.

_Endless_

i'm sure there's already some oil in the exhaust side coz i jacked up my car and touch the inside of the exhaust pipe there's this black wet sticky stuff which i believe is oil.

so now, it's either the engine or the turbo and i like to know which one.

i'm going to try what Flamenco-T said.

95c1v1cs1

It sounds more like the rings to me. Garrett is right, it will smoke at idle if the seals are bad.

_Endless_

by the way, if it were the rings, wouldn't i have oil soaked spark plugs? and some oil on the breather filter?

i checked the plug and they were not oil soaked or fouled up. i also checked the breather filter and no traces of oil as well.

just wondering.

nevin

my car started to smoke too and im not sure if its the turbo or rings (or maybe valve seats?). mine dosent smoke at idle just when putting a load on the car (accelerating), the turbo is pretty old but then again i run the motor(b18a) pretty hard(9ish psi) without the greatest of management(fmu, inline, missing link) and i wouldnt be suprised if it was the rings. theres no oil in the charge pipes, not sure about the plugs. when the car is warm/hot and i take the dipstick out smoke does come out of the hole but im not sure when its cold. what do you guys think

greekspeed

What about a leaky head gasket? i know of some cars that have had blueish smoke come out from a leaky head gasket...im not sure though.

youngkow

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _Endless_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by the way, if it were the rings, wouldn't i have oil soaked spark plugs? and some oil on the breather filter?

i checked the plug and they were not oil soaked or fouled up. i also checked the breather filter and no traces of oil as well.

just wondering.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Forgot to mention that too. My plugs were fine, and had no smoke from breather.

_Endless_

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flamenco-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while at idle, take out the dipstick, if smokes comes out of there, you may have a cracked/weak ringlands.

stan
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i checked it yesterday and no sign of smoke. the car still pull strong. i guess i've to have a shop do a compression and leakdown test.

_Endless_

i did a compression test but not a leakdown coz there's no shop from where i live that does leakdown test except a honda dealership, but the dealership don't want to do it also coz they don't do leakdown test on turbo hondas for fear of damaging some stuff. what's up with that? kinda wierd...

anyway, here the results:
cylinder #1 - 185
#2 - 195
#3 - 190
#4 - 195

i believe they're all within specs and the variations are not that great. any comments?

youngkow

Looks good, but when I pulled my head off, I also found a partially fried head gasket. And I also saw traces of oil in the coolant in the block. So definately do the leak down test. Taking the head off was a bitch. Thank god, my sleeves are fine.

one more chance

i wouldve had thought it would have something to do with the headgasket myself.
what head gasket are you running...thicker or standard..?

PM-Performance

im having the same probs only under load though. newly built motor, i hope its the turbo seals before anything inside. i think i did see some oil in the brwther filter though? comprssion tests were all in specs of eachother, when i pulle dout the plugs to do a leakdown cyl 4 had a little smoke coming out of the spark plug hole, i was told garunteed it was the headgasket, but i have seen perfectly fine motors do that after a run already ? dunno ,

AlphaKennyWun

fyi

i had a similar problem and when i took off my turbo manifold, there was oily residue around the exhaust port of my #3 cyl. thats how i knew my pistons were fried and it wasnt my turbo. I also had oily residue on the spark plug. there wasnt much of a change in compression in that cyl either it was like -10 psi from the rest and a leak down test couldnt find it either.

servion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flamenco-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while at idle, take out the dipstick, if smokes comes out of there, you may have a cracked/weak ringlands.

stan
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could bad rings also cause this, or only ringlands?

PM-Performance

thats where mines coming from on cyl 3

krazy

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could bad rings also cause this, or only ringlands?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wanna know too..

bump

krazy

DaveF

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats where mines coming from on cyl 3</TD></TR></TABLE>

headgasket.