LST / LS-T Turbo B18A B18B setups
06-13-2006, 10:30 PM
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Re: (JDMs1eeper)
im gonna be shooting for 400whp in the near future any turbo opinions on what would be ideal (and within a decent price range?)
06-14-2006, 08:31 AM
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Re: (Turbo-LS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-LS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GT3076r .63 a/r
T3/T04E 60 trim .83 a/r
SC44 .63 a/r
SC61 .48 or .63 a/r</TD></TR></TABLE>
you mean, T3/T04E 60 trim .63 a/r right?
T3/T04E 60 trim .83 a/r
SC44 .63 a/r
SC61 .48 or .63 a/r</TD></TR></TABLE>
you mean, T3/T04E 60 trim .63 a/r right?
06-14-2006, 08:48 AM
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Guys do you think I should rush it or no?
I'm about to start college in 2 months give or take a few days. My build its about 95% complete right now. I however am running out of cash ATM.
I was thinking I could sell selective parts from my build. Mainly my T3/T04b turbo. Come back next summer/spring buy a Percision SC series turbo and some different injectors and have a party like no other and easily reach my goal.
The only problem I foresee is having built up to this point of spending all this money on something I want done, and not having it done... choices choices.
I'm about to start college in 2 months give or take a few days. My build its about 95% complete right now. I however am running out of cash ATM.
I was thinking I could sell selective parts from my build. Mainly my T3/T04b turbo. Come back next summer/spring buy a Percision SC series turbo and some different injectors and have a party like no other and easily reach my goal.
The only problem I foresee is having built up to this point of spending all this money on something I want done, and not having it done... choices choices.
06-14-2006, 08:58 AM
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Re: (onemanlan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onemanlan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The only problem I foresee is having built up to this point of spending all this money on something I want done, and not having it done... choices choices.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the thing w/ boost.. you dont loose your resale "that much" as long as the kit is basicaly complete. You can sell it, cash in now and pay attention to school. (save lil by little also while in school) then when your out for summer start getting parts again.
At least if you get in a bind w/ money durin the school year you'll be set. Just dont waste ur $ on keg's the first week of school, I'm sure you can find plenty of free beer around campus! lol
The only problem I foresee is having built up to this point of spending all this money on something I want done, and not having it done... choices choices.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the thing w/ boost.. you dont loose your resale "that much" as long as the kit is basicaly complete. You can sell it, cash in now and pay attention to school. (save lil by little also while in school) then when your out for summer start getting parts again.
At least if you get in a bind w/ money durin the school year you'll be set. Just dont waste ur $ on keg's the first week of school, I'm sure you can find plenty of free beer around campus! lol
06-14-2006, 10:13 AM
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Re: (redDAinteg)
im running a garret t3/to4B right now on 10lbs. 48. 60. anyone have any clue as to how many lbs this thing will run out of steam at?
06-14-2006, 10:39 AM
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Re: (redDAinteg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redDAinteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does a 3inch exhaust make a big difference over a 2.5inch when using 7-10psi ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I had a 3inch DP and 3inch exhaust to a 2.5 inlet/outlet muffler , it picked it up A LOT when all i did was take the muffler off. That was at 10psi.
Ive seen gains of 35-40whp switching from 2.5 to 3in. on a GSR turbo setup on 8psi. Spool time is quicker to.
BUT it'll be loud... so you know
I personaly have 2 Kteller 3inch exhaust's, a Mild Steel w. no muffler and a Stainless Steel w/ N1 muffler...
I had a 3inch DP and 3inch exhaust to a 2.5 inlet/outlet muffler , it picked it up A LOT when all i did was take the muffler off. That was at 10psi.
Ive seen gains of 35-40whp switching from 2.5 to 3in. on a GSR turbo setup on 8psi. Spool time is quicker to.
BUT it'll be loud... so you know
I personaly have 2 Kteller 3inch exhaust's, a Mild Steel w. no muffler and a Stainless Steel w/ N1 muffler...
06-14-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: (xfrankx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfrankx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im running a garret t3/to4B right now on 10lbs. 48. 60. anyone have any clue as to how many lbs this thing will run out of steam at? </TD></TR></TABLE>
what size turbine AR does it have? The .48AR id say is efficent to 300 while the .63AR is good to 350-360whp. Ive seen the .63AR t3/t04B make 401whp w/ a intercooler chill kit to help keep IAT's low.
what size turbine AR does it have? The .48AR id say is efficent to 300 while the .63AR is good to 350-360whp. Ive seen the .63AR t3/t04B make 401whp w/ a intercooler chill kit to help keep IAT's low.
06-14-2006, 11:17 AM
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You will gain hp from the larger exhaust. we were runnign open dp on my buddies delsol and it took alot more fuel and the big ol t4 spooled by liek 4200. we hooked it up from the 3inch dp to the 2.5 exhaust and it doesnt spool till about 5300 now and def lost a little up top. bigger is better with exhaust on a turbo car
06-14-2006, 01:14 PM
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This may be slightly (okay alot) off topic for this thread, but still semi-related. I plan on building an engine for my 1996 rs for boost. I want to buy a used head and block, but since 1996 rs is obd2 do I need to use specific head/block or can I use any? Or just 96+ block and head? Thanks I am a bit confused.
06-14-2006, 01:21 PM
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Re: (Nors)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nors »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This may be slightly (okay alot) off topic for this thread, but still semi-related. I plan on building an engine for my 1996 rs for boost. I want to buy a used head and block, but since 1996 rs is obd2 do I need to use specific head/block or can I use any? Or just 96+ block and head? Thanks I am a bit confused.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can use any combination.
You can use any combination.
06-14-2006, 01:22 PM
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You will have several sensors that'll need to be plugd up or it'll throw a CEL unlike the earlier modles, try stickin to 96+ if possible because only the 96+ B's have the sensor at the crank also I believe.
06-14-2006, 01:25 PM
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Re: (JDMs1eeper)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will have several sensors that'll need to be plugd up or it'll throw a CEL unlike the earlier modles, try stickin to 96+ if possible because only the 96+ B's have the sensor at the crank also I believe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep. only obd2 vehicles have that sensor. crank angle sensor. the only reason I want to keep mine is when it's time for inspection and I throw the stock injectors and ECU back in...
yep. only obd2 vehicles have that sensor. crank angle sensor. the only reason I want to keep mine is when it's time for inspection and I throw the stock injectors and ECU back in...
06-14-2006, 01:52 PM
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Re: (HybridcivicLS-T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what size turbine AR does it have? The .48AR id say is efficent to 300 while the .63AR is good to 350-360whp. Ive seen the .63AR t3/t04B make 401whp w/ a intercooler chill kit to help keep IAT's low. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I personaly have 2 Kteller 3inch exhaust's, a Mild Steel w. no muffler and a Stainless Steel w/ N1 muffler... [/QUOTE]
its a .48AR
what size turbine AR does it have? The .48AR id say is efficent to 300 while the .63AR is good to 350-360whp. Ive seen the .63AR t3/t04B make 401whp w/ a intercooler chill kit to help keep IAT's low. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I personaly have 2 Kteller 3inch exhaust's, a Mild Steel w. no muffler and a Stainless Steel w/ N1 muffler... [/QUOTE]
its a .48AR
06-14-2006, 03:19 PM
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Wheel trim topic coverage
Trim is a common term used when talking about or describing turbochargers. For example, you may hear someone say "I have a GT2871R ' 56 Trim ' turbocharger. What is 'Trim?' Trim is a term to express the relationship between the inducer* and exducer* of both turbine and compressor wheels. More accurately, it is an area ratio.
* The inducer diameter is defined as the diameter where the air enters the wheel, whereas the exducer diameter is defined as the diameter where the air exits the wheel.
Based on aerodynamics and air entry paths, the inducer for a compressor wheel is the smaller diameter. For turbine wheels, the inducer it is the larger diameter
Example #1: GT2871R turbocharger (Garrett part number 743347-2) has a compressor wheel with the below dimensions. What is the trim of the compressor wheel?
Inducer diameter = 53.1mm
Exducer diameter = 71.0mm
Example #2: GT2871R turbocharger (part # 743347-1) has a compressor wheel with an exducer diameter of 71.0mm and a trim of 48. What is the inducer diameter of the compressor wheel?
Exducer diameter = 71.0mm
Trim = 48
The trim of a wheel, whether compressor or turbine, affects performance by shifting the airflow capacity. All other factors held constant, a higher trim wheel will flow more than a smaller trim wheel.
However, it is important to note that very often all other factors are not held constant. So just because a wheel is a larger trim does not necessarily mean that it will flow more.
-turbobygarrett.com
Trim is a common term used when talking about or describing turbochargers. For example, you may hear someone say "I have a GT2871R ' 56 Trim ' turbocharger. What is 'Trim?' Trim is a term to express the relationship between the inducer* and exducer* of both turbine and compressor wheels. More accurately, it is an area ratio.
* The inducer diameter is defined as the diameter where the air enters the wheel, whereas the exducer diameter is defined as the diameter where the air exits the wheel.
Based on aerodynamics and air entry paths, the inducer for a compressor wheel is the smaller diameter. For turbine wheels, the inducer it is the larger diameter
Example #1: GT2871R turbocharger (Garrett part number 743347-2) has a compressor wheel with the below dimensions. What is the trim of the compressor wheel?
Inducer diameter = 53.1mm
Exducer diameter = 71.0mm
Example #2: GT2871R turbocharger (part # 743347-1) has a compressor wheel with an exducer diameter of 71.0mm and a trim of 48. What is the inducer diameter of the compressor wheel?
Exducer diameter = 71.0mm
Trim = 48
The trim of a wheel, whether compressor or turbine, affects performance by shifting the airflow capacity. All other factors held constant, a higher trim wheel will flow more than a smaller trim wheel.
However, it is important to note that very often all other factors are not held constant. So just because a wheel is a larger trim does not necessarily mean that it will flow more.
-turbobygarrett.com
06-14-2006, 04:42 PM
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A/F is street tuned.
That was my first run tonight since i installed the setup. 7psi untuned. Im fairly happy with it for now. Ive got a few exhaust leaks and a huge dent in my dp, need it fixed next week and then tune it. Looking for 260whp with my 450s, thats as high as i will let them go.
Good? Bad? Comments? Im faily happy with the air fuel, as long as i know its a safe map to start with.
t3/t4 60 trim .63 ar
tial bov/wg
precision FMIC
bone stock ls
450cc's with walbro fp (no fpr yet)
06-14-2006, 06:33 PM
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no he doesnt yet... one of the little things to fix before tuning...
like he said..the map was just street tuned a/f
these numbers were also done without a fan on the intercooler, and it wasnt very cool out... notice the difference between the 2 runs
like he said..the map was just street tuned a/f
these numbers were also done without a fan on the intercooler, and it wasnt very cool out... notice the difference between the 2 runs