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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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Default anti sway bar info needed...

i`m curious... here everybody tells me something different...
can i equip my "cx" 5th gen hatch with antisway bars or not??
if no do i need any kind of kit that allows me to???
please help me ah! and inform me about some good ones please...
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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your best bet would be to go with honda sway bars. I would run a EX 22mm up front and a 22mm ITR bar in the rear with the beaks kit
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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come on guys more info please.....
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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you guys are helpless.....
don`t know why do i even post
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 06:43 PM
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Default Re: anti sway bar info needed... (schtozo)

It can be done, but I think you have to drill holes. On my fat pig 93 Si hatch, I already had stock sway bars, so the holes were there when I replaced them with ST's.
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 04:15 AM
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Simple cure, EIBACH.

Been running their anti sway bar setup for 5-6 years now. No drilling, no changing the LCA's.

DX along with CX and VX came with NO bars, period.
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 04:33 AM
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Simple cure, EIBACH.
I always had concerns that this setup would hit over bumps, Mista, but does it?

I put in an Si front sway with Del Sol S front control arms and that was the Shittzat,

and I put in a Suspension Techniques rear sway and that is also a very good bar (I'm not sure its as good as the ITR, but it required less work and swapping).

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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 05:29 AM
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Default Re: anti sway bar info needed... (shawnhayes)

how could it hit? Stock exhaust hangs lower the the Eibachs bars.

The only issue I've found is when jacking up the front. The front sway bar will limit downtravel. This means the LCA is under tension. Also makes the lower ball joint come apart easier!
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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how could it hit? Stock exhaust hangs lower the the Eibachs bars.

The only issue I've found is when jacking up the front. The front sway bar will limit downtravel. This means the LCA is under tension. Also makes the lower ball joint come apart easier!
I meant the front Eibach bar. I could never quite "visualize" in my head the Eibach bar path under the suspension. I couldn't tell if it would hang low in the front or not.

As you may know, the add on ST front bar (on a car with no front bar) the bar goes UNDER the stock exhaust, raising questions of would it scrape over speedbumps or other bumps.

I had this same question about Eibachs, but I don't know. Would you have a picture?

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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 05:47 AM
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no picture handy, but Eibach goes OVER the exhaust and linkage/shift rod. The ONLY problem with this, is the middle hoop part hits on the subframe when front suspension is fully unloaded. Like jackstands at the forward jack points.

My 93 Civic had started it's winter nap unless I get some Lude injectors in next 2 weeks. I'll snap a picture, but likely won't be till March.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: anti sway bar info needed... (Mista Bone)

aye you guys mentioned that a si sway would work for the from, but would a teg sway fit as well? i've never paid attentioned to it so i dont have a clue on this one......thankks
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 07:50 AM
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your best bet would be to go with honda sway bars. I would run a EX 22mm up front and a 22mm ITR bar in the rear with the beaks kit
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http://www.beaksproducts.com/srk-eg.html

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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 08:04 AM
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shawnhayes, I have the ST kit front and rear with the adaption brackets on my '94 cx. To answer your inquiry about the low mounting sway bars and whether or not it hits, suprisingly no. I live in PA and the road are crap and I haven't caught it on anything. It fits close to the cat but doesn't rub, which is good.

Even the endlinks which mount below the front control arm don't seem to hit. The directions say to install the endlink bolts pointing up but they seem to bind with the adaption brackets. Not enough clearance. For the hell of it I installed mine pointing down and they seem very close to the ground. I've had it like this for about a month now and no problems. Perhaps being so close to the wheel helps protect the endlinks.

This was my personal experience and I'm happy with the setup. Like I said the adaption brackets in the front could have been designed better, but I'm still pleased.

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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 05:09 AM
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no picture handy, but Eibach goes OVER the exhaust and linkage/shift rod. The ONLY problem with this, is the middle hoop part hits on the subframe when front suspension is fully unloaded. Like jackstands at the forward jack points.

My 93 Civic had started it's winter nap unless I get some Lude injectors in next 2 weeks. I'll snap a picture, but likely won't be till March.
I appreciate it. I did think there might be some strikes, but I couldn't visualize the path. I like the stock Honda bar up front, but the turns are so convoluted that I think it compromises the bar somewhat.

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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 05:13 AM
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shawnhayes, I have the ST kit front and rear with the adaption brackets on my '94 cx. To answer your inquiry about the low mounting sway bars and whether or not it hits, suprisingly no. I live in PA and the road are crap and I haven't caught it on anything. It fits close to the cat but doesn't rub, which is good.

Even the endlinks which mount below the front control arm don't seem to hit. The directions say to install the endlink bolts pointing up but they seem to bind with the adaption brackets. Not enough clearance. For the hell of it I installed mine pointing down and they seem very close to the ground. I've had it like this for about a month now and no problems. Perhaps being so close to the wheel helps protect the endlinks.

This was my personal experience and I'm happy with the setup. Like I said the adaption brackets in the front could have been designed better, but I'm still pleased.

G
I think a picture is in order, don't you?



I am just suspicious of the ST front setup. I have the rear setup myself, but the front setup just seems too "rigged".

Shawn
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 05:20 AM
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Default for those who have ST kits

I bought the rear setup for my 98 coupe (works really well for the price ) and it squeaks on cold weather.

Does this mean I need to lube it?


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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 05:41 AM
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Default Re: for those who have ST kits (upNover)

I bought the rear setup for my 98 coupe (works really well for the price ) and it squeaks on cold weather.

Does this mean I need to lube it?


[Modified by upNover, 2:21 PM 10/26/2002]
Lubing it is always good, but it isn't easy. I love pictures, how bout you?



Lube it if you can. Silicone grease, but it isn't easy to find. Mista Bone had a link.

Shawn
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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I'm damn glad I didn't buy the ST setup.

It looks so rigged.
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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I'm damn glad I didn't buy the ST setup.

It looks so rigged.
I don't like the front, but I do like the rear. I think it might be about as good as the ITR one, and it's hella cheaper to install (to do an ITR right, you have to buy MUCHO more parts).

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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 09:28 AM
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Default Re: anti sway bar info needed... (shawnhayes)

I will second Shawnhayes' comment about the front ST sway bar. I have it on my 1993 CX and it rubbs at two points on my chasis. I hate it! I will be removing it this weekend.

How about the Z10 motorsports kit? Is that setup strictly for drag use?
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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if u dont have an si u need to get the rear lower arms with the sway bar mounts only si came with them or u can get 92-93 solid lower arms , we just got a set for my buddys car and they were hard to find and for the front im not sure if u have the holes or not if not i recomend u get the gsr arms and sway bar.hopefully that helps.
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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How about the Z10 motorsports kit? Is that setup strictly for drag use?
I drive my 92 Civic with the Z10 kit to and from work everyday, and its my primary car on the weekend too.

However, I did "modify" the spashgaurd so I could keep it on with the Z10 bars on as well. This makes big bumps HURT REAL BAD, though, so only get the Z10's if you're serious about acceleration. I love mine.

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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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for the eibach kit what size sway bars do they offer, and would u say their setup is better than an itr rear bar???
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 03:35 AM
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Eibach is 25mm/17 or 17.5 mm.

Most people who get ITR rear bars do one of two things, if not both.

Rip the frame out (Beaks cure) or crash the car when the rear end snaps around on the street.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 03:37 AM
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Default Re: anti sway bar info needed... (Mista Bone)

Eibach is 25mm/17 or 17.5 mm.

Most people who get ITR rear bars do one of two things, if not both.

Rip the frame out (Beaks cure) or crash the car when the rear end snaps around on the street.
MWAHAHAHAHAHA

People think the primary reason that there are so many ITR parts out there is theft. BS.

The primary reason that there are so many ITR parts out there is ITR drivers.

Shawn
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