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Old May 1, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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Hey guys, im not really experienced in car suspensions. But i recently bought tein ss with stock top hats on my dc. I want to know is there any small things that will give me a smooth ride like polyurethane bushings(which type), or what else?

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Old May 1, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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To answer your Question in a direct manner.......Stock suspension will give you the best smoothest ride....unless of course you want to spend money on airbags.

If your gonna install the Super Streets then your best bet would to ride around and adjust the dampning on the suspension to how you enjoy it the most. Trial and error is your friend!
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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smooth ride... buick, lexus, avalon, sable, lincon, etc...
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Old May 4, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98GSRDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys, im not really experienced in car suspensions. But i recently bought tein ss with stock top hats on my dc. I want to know is there any small things that will give me a smooth ride like polyurethane bushings(which type), or what else?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stock springs and dampers and stock rubber bushings are going to net you the most comfortable ride.

Aftermarket coilovers, lowered ride heights, and polyurethane will only make it more harsh.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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I notice quite a difference between different kinds of tires as well. Using a tire that is properly aligned and one that doesn't make a lot of excess noise on the road is always good. Usually this is a more all-season or all around tire.

Most honda's were made for fuel economy and also use lighter weight, more compact suspension parts. I think that using the stock suspension and reinforcing the interior with sound deadener to eliminate squeaks/rattles is a good investment if you're looking for ride quality, simply because the ride quality (at least in my opinion) goes quite a ways beyond how much of a bump you feel, there's a lot of "how much you hear" involved in an opinion of how well a car rides as well.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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like people said on top, stock is the best for ride comfort.

there is no way you will feel comfortable once you modified your suspension.

But you can try get one of those spring sits? or whatever they call it. This "sit" goes on the bottom of the spring on coilovers and it gets compressed first and give extra cushion.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TotalBalance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But you can try get one of those spring sits? or whatever they call it. This "sit" goes on the bottom of the spring on coilovers and it gets compressed first and give extra cushion. </TD></TR></TABLE>

A compressible seat, would simply function as another spring. Not saying they don't exist, but I have yet to see one (that compresses). I have certainly seen polyurethane spring seats used to raise the vehicle, but they simply act as spacers, and do not function as springs.

Assuming such a product exists, a spring on top of a spring (in series) will produce a total spring rate lower than either spring. Unless you really want to break out the calculator and deal with main and tender spring configurations to produce a progressive rate system, just run a single spring.
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Old May 10, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TotalBalance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like people said on top, stock is the best for ride comfort.

there is no way you will feel comfortable once you modified your suspension.

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I still dont understand this, what makes the oem suspension the most comfortable right possible Just dont get why any aftermarket company out there cant design something to offer a "better ride". Besides the purpose of lowering a vehicle... whats the point of buying an expensive coilover system if your just making a less comfortable ride?
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Old May 11, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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For better handling......?
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Old May 12, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bjorn20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I still dont understand this, what makes the oem suspension the most comfortable right possible Just dont get why any aftermarket company out there cant design something to offer a "better ride". Besides the purpose of lowering a vehicle... whats the point of buying an expensive coilover system if your just making a less comfortable ride?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lower = less total suspension travel available
less total travel = stiffer springs required
stiffer springs = worse ride quality

The purpose, is to either improve handling, or provide a low appearance. Either way, rates go up and ride quality goes down.

If you actually want smoother than stock, you're looking for airbags or air cylinders. Also, you probably won't find much info on such things on this site.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bjorn20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I still dont understand this, what makes the oem suspension the most comfortable right possible Just dont get why any aftermarket company out there cant design something to offer a "better ride". Besides the purpose of lowering a vehicle... whats the point of buying an expensive coilover system if your just making a less comfortable ride?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Coilover first came out as race spec dampers. Then they gradually become available to any buyers. So you see, aftermarket company is not making OEM replacement shocks to make your car comfortable and make your car look "cool". Coilover is there to improve your car's handling and in turn sacrifice ride comfort. Nowadays, aftermarket companies are trying to make "comfortable" coilovers but seriously, how comfy could they become over OEM? where srpings are super soft and struts are super longer than the aftermarkets?
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Old May 13, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Default Re: How to get the best smooth ride? (Megalomaniac)

interesting, didnt know that there was a compromise between handling and ride, thought you could have both. So whats with everyone saying after the installation of a new coilover/shock, "holy **** this rides so much nicer than before" unless they are referring to the handling??

As far as handling goes, do you absolutly have to be somewhat lower to the ground to achieve better handling? I know its not the only factor contributing to it but just curiouse. Just odd that aftermarket companies cant design something that gives you both worlds.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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I would say that, yes you will need to lower your car in order for it to handle better, due to the center of gravity being lower. but only certain extent. once you past that point, it is pretty much fashion over function.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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Default Re: How to get the best smooth ride? (Bjorn20)

It is more a matter of physics than design. When you take a corner you apply a lot of force to your spring and struts in order for the car to handle well it needs to be able to carry that force, the only way to do that is stiffen up the springs and shocks so they can absorb more of the force. Unfortunately stiffening up said parts means that you feel more of the bumps in the road. As far as lowering goes it is important for proper handling, if you lower the center of gravity you give less "leverage" for the mass of the vehicle to apply against the suspension.

Now as a caveat there are some companies that offer a "progressive" spring rate which is soft on the outer ends and stiff in the middle so that during normal ride conditions that car is smoother but under handling conditions it can still handle. The problem is that it can't be as smooth as stock and can't be as stiff as others on the same spring.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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I still can't understand why people expect to have the same ride comfort when they put on coilovers.Why can't people understand that coilovers are race inspired and were never meant for a leisurely drive to drop the kids off at grandma's house?

I actually love my coilovers vs stock suspension.It makes me feel like I'm actually driving instead of just going along for the ride.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 01:48 AM
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monro sensatrack oil shocks. best oem replacement (comfortwise)
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