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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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ive searched and no one really answers this...

can a NON-VTEC dizzy work on a VTEC motor and viceverca...basically does it matter. i dont think it does since the dizzy has nothing to do with vtec timing. but correct me if im wrong

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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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my friend had a dizzy from a SOHC ZC motor and tried to run it on his d16z6 and it ran like ****.

The correct dizzy for the motor is needed. We put on my d16z6 distributor on hid d16 and the car ran like a charm with mine on.

So it does make a difference on the way the motor will run
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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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i would like to know as well. so the motor will start, but will NOT RUN RIGHT..please confirm
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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pennies_hatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would like to know as well. so the motor will start, but will NOT RUN RIGHT..please confirm</TD></TR></TABLE>

Using a distributor from a ZC motor on a d16z6 will make it run like ***

even ask my buddie martin (xgenturbo) on here...we put on my distributor from my Si and it worked properly on his d16
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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Default Re: dizzy question (Mr.RHTuner)

doesnt a sohc zc have vtec? ive seen people on here use vtec dizzys on non vtec motors just one of the bolts doesnt line up or something like that.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by e jay one &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doesnt a sohc zc have vtec? ive seen people on here use vtec dizzys on non vtec motors just one of the bolts doesnt line up or something like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Comes in different models. Vtec as well as non-vtec.

Anyway, what about the obd1 dx distributor on the obd2 ex's. That's non-vtec to vtec. From the information I've seen it hasn't listed any difference in running. Some state they have issues with timing others state they do not.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=927061

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Old May 31, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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well, i checked hondaautomotveparts.com and checked the part #'s for a 95 dx and a 95 ex and its the same part #.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pennies_hatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i checked hondaautomotveparts.com and checked the part #'s for a 95 dx and a 95 ex and its the same part #.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Check again. A non vtec dizzy will not work on most Vtec motors. They have a different tooth distance and length. Most people grind the tabs to make them work . Just get a Vtec dizzy or non vtec dizzy and do it right. The Vtec dizzy's EX VX and Si have a different part number than non vtec dizzy's DX CX and LX. I even went down to Honda and asked them and they were kind enough to show me the difference and why it wouldn't work. I was suprised how helpful they were and how they were willing to actually show me.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Check again. A non vtec dizzy will not work on most Vtec motors. They have a different tooth distance and length. Most people grind the tabs to make them work . Just get a Vtec dizzy or non vtec dizzy and do it right. The Vtec dizzy's EX VX and Si have a different part number than non vtec dizzy's DX CX and LX. I even went down to Honda and asked them and they were kind enough to show me the difference and why it wouldn't work. I was suprised how helpful they were and how they were willing to actually show me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats exactly what i wanted to know.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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quick ? for you, i bought a d16y8 swap with a suppose vtec dizzy, now the swap runs, but it runs shitty as hell. idles perfect but when you start to drive it, it feels very choppy and i can ONLY rev to 45 mph. i also, have a d16y7 dizzy and on the dizzy has the same type numbers. now did i get a dx dizzy or an ex dizzy.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pennies_hatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thats exactly what i wanted to know. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I could have answered that for you the other day. I tried it when my the spare car's dx distributor took a crap. I tried to see if the ex/si would work, but the mounting locations on them prevent it. The dx looks a bit smaller than the ex as well.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Default Re: dizzy question (flash94civicsi)

well, ive heard otherwise. i think that it should work with no problems (using dx dizzy on an ex head) i mean, there's nothing in the dizzy that controls vtec. there has to be someone whose done it


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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Default Re: dizzy question (flash94civicsi)

the guts are the same i know because i have used guts out of a accord 92 motor in my b16 dizzy and the are the exact same thing, you can also use the guts out of a 92-95 civic they are also the same. The arms on the dizzy are different but the internals are the same.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Default Re: dizzy question (716pro)

interesting because my y8 head i bought came with a a6 distributor *which is NON-vtec* and the guy said it pulled hard as hell and was good...kinda weird
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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i dont understand what pulled hard as hell the DIZZY, lol they are the same guts i know this is true.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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^ The setup moron...anyways...bump for a straight answer
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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i know what he meant. Thats why i put lol.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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The tabs are different. Anybody that is running a non vtec dizzy on a vtec engine has modified the tabs (grind, cutting, etc.). There is no way that they will just bolt on.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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im got pictures to prove it...
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The tabs are different. Anybody that is running a non vtec dizzy on a vtec engine has modified the tabs (grind, cutting, etc.). There is no way that they will just bolt on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

true...i have a 00 ex head and im going to get a 92-95 dx dizzy to see if itll work. (00 y8 in a 94 del sol)
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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All D series are the same other than the D16Z6 ones which have the tabs further apart. All the guts are the same and if you swap the guts from a non vtec into a Z6 housing it will run perfect. Z6 dizzy's are the only queer ones.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delslo93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All D series are the same other than the D16Z6 ones which have the tabs further apart. All the guts are the same and if you swap the guts from a non vtec into a Z6 housing it will run perfect. Z6 dizzy's are the only queer ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>

From what i understand too

EDIT: My link to my y8 head with a a6 setup...pics could be found here https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1257765
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: dizzy question (civicboisi)

Ya like its said the guts are the same, so just switch the guts it takes five minutes to do.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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its a obd0 a6 housing...im not talking about the guts only...the whole housing bolts on to the y8 head
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