3 bar GM map sensor trouble

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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Default 3 bar GM map sensor trouble

ok so I turn the car on and it idles very low like 400 and if i give it throttle it doesnt respond well and then stalls. could it be that my map sensor is just bad? any way to test it.

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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Default Re: 3 bar GM map sensor trouble (jsimon9633)

what ecu do you have because it doesnt work unless you have a chipped ecu
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Old May 10, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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i have a kpro
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Old May 10, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Default Re: 3 bar GM map sensor trouble (jsimon9633)

is your kpro properly setup to run the 3 bar sensor?

you cant just hook it up and expect it to work.....
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Old May 10, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Yes his KPro is properly setup for his three bar I would hope so being the boost gauge usually says 20 PSI at WOT

Alberto, like I said on the phone I am 99% sure it's the map sensor.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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You can test the voltages of the 3bar to make sure it's sending out proper signal.

should read 1.6v from the map to the gnd wires.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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can you run a 3 bar map with a hondata s200b on a p28 ecu or does something need to be burned into the ecu to make it run properly
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Old May 27, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dategb16vortech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you run a 3 bar map with a hondata s200b on a p28 ecu or does something need to be burned into the ecu to make it run properly</TD></TR></TABLE>

The eprom must be setup to work with the map sensor.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iGfrequency &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can test the voltages of the 3bar to make sure it's sending out proper signal.

should read 1.6v from the map to the gnd wires. </TD></TR></TABLE>

+1 check the sensor voltage.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Default Re: 3 bar GM map sensor trouble (jsimon9633)

Take it up near WOT (low vacuum/boost) and it should run fine. The problem with the 3-bar, which is plauging uberdata users mostly, is that the GM bar sensor's real reading in high-vacuum are totally off (non-linear) compaired to the datasheet. IIRC, -22 in/Hg is read/output as -27 in/Hg. I bet if you stuck a wideband in and tested it, it'd idle very rich. Rich + added throttle = more gas injected, resulting in stalling/hesitation.

And FYI, the only GM 3-bar sensor that won't function like this...is a fualty one.


edit - and before I forget, the GM 3-bar also tends to give strange readings above 22psi according to most users.
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