I hope this isn't a new problem, and it's something easily remedied.
Anyway, I finished assembling my motor, B16, .020 overbore with CP 9:1's, eagle rods, AEM EMS, dsm 450's, etc. Today, I finished assembly of everything, and tried to start the motor. After trying to crank the engine over and failing, I took out the plugs to see what was going on. I was pulling out dripping wet plugs, they were drenched with fuel, and from what some engine builders have said, this is very bad for a fresh engine, as the rings tear into the cylinder walls when fuel washes them out. So I get into the aem, and see if I can turn the fuel down. Everything I try had no effect, I just kept getting crazy amounts of fuel in the engine. Now, would this be a hardware problem or something within the ems? The calibration is teh same as what I was using last year, on a stock engine though, but I figure that the same map would start the motor. What else should I be looking at? All this extra fuel has me worried.
Also, would there be any other precautions I should take into consideration with a fresh engine?

 

try using a chipped p28 or some sort of stock ecu, worth a shot

 

did you have the ems on the other engine with the same with the same injectors?


I hope when I get mine done it all goes perfect or I will cry

 

your timming is right correct?

 

I also had a problem with this and found it was a faulty map sensor wiring. the person who owned the car hacked up the chassis harness and got the 3 wires for the map wiring mixed around. Its true that its very bad. The load of fuel washes the oil need for lubrication and theres friction between the walls and pistons skirts. This happend to me and I had to tear my motor apart and I'd recommend putting in a stock ecu and injectors first to see if that work and to go over everything again.

 

Also what map are you using? Send me your cal and let me take a look at it.

 

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I hope when I get mine done it all goes perfect or I will cry</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, everything was the same from both setups, except the decrease in compression

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as far as I know. During assembly everything was checked and re-checked. The engine tries to get going, it had what sounded like mini combustions, but couldnt' turn over.


I don't think its the map at all, I get no errors on teh fault screen. I think it may be faulty info in teh ems, I mean it has been sitting for the whole winter, so I'll try to upload a similar map and see what happnes. If that does nothing, I'll try out the stock ecu, and hopefully that will fire it up

 

pull those 450's out and put in a set of stock injectors and a stock ECU to fire the engine up.....there is a chance you may have washed the cylinders down so much that the rings will never seat now.

get it running on the stock injectors and ECU for now and worry about the EMS later.....trying to configure a EMS without a running engine is a pain in the ***...

 

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get it running on the stock injectors and ECU for now and worry about the EMS later.....trying to configure a EMS without a running engine is a pain in the ***...</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's my next step. I tried everything with the ignition/coil, but that is working fine.

I just don't get it, everything was the same before I tore the engine down. I just dont' know what I could possibly be missing here.

 

here's some more info on what's going on. I tried starting it again, and was unsuccesful, but when I was taking the plugs out, some of the cylinders had white smoke coming out the plug well. Would this help diagnose my engine woes?

 

bump. I'm still screwed with this problem.

Also, I re-checked timing, everything looks good. cams line up with #1 at tdc.

 

check the ECU for codes. there has to be something wrong with one or more of the sensors.

also make sure you try to dry out all the cylinders before trying to fire it up again. once you soak a plug with fuel it's really hard for it to fire.

 

it has to be to much fuel. the motor should run even with some codes being thrown, may not run well though. use stock injectors and ecu while your breaking in the motor then switch back to your current set up for boost.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Canuk_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... Now, would this be a hardware problem...?</TD></TR></TABLE>Like a ruptured FPR? Have you checked out your fuel pressure? And look for fuel in the FPR's vacuum line? It's easy to check just to rule out this stuff.

 

did you get it running? if so what was the problem?