Tuning my B20 w/ Emanage
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Tuning my B20 w/ Emanage
Hey I have a fresh B20 turbo in my crx and will be needing some management as expected. Now I have a really good deal available for Greddy Emanage from a friend. I just wanted to know some of your guys' opinions on Emanage. I searched and found a few mixed reviews on it. The setup of course is a bone stock B20b with RC550's, inline pro SS manifold with T3/T04e. Also how much boost should I have it tuned at? Thanks a bunch in advanced!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by calgone47 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any downfalls besides the lack of a 2step?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, emanage is a piggyback/hack that tricks your ECU. I would get real fuel management if you can (chipped ECU or a stand alone). Oh and if it was my b20 I would tune the boost at 0psi.
Yeah, emanage is a piggyback/hack that tricks your ECU. I would get real fuel management if you can (chipped ECU or a stand alone). Oh and if it was my b20 I would tune the boost at 0psi.
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Oh and if it was my b20 I would tune the boost at 0psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what does that mean?
there is nothing wrong with the emanage and if your getting a deal then you should deff get it i would get it over uberdata no burning chips over and over again also you get real time communication which means you can tune as you drive. it also has data logging
Oh and if it was my b20 I would tune the boost at 0psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what does that mean?
there is nothing wrong with the emanage and if your getting a deal then you should deff get it i would get it over uberdata no burning chips over and over again also you get real time communication which means you can tune as you drive. it also has data logging
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what does that mean?
there is nothing wrong with the emanage and if your getting a deal then you should deff get it i would get it over uberdata no burning chips over and over again also you get real time communication which means you can tune as you drive. it also has data logging</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont worry with what Beer says, hes a devout Boosted-B20 haterr.
Also Uberdata will have Realtime soon. With the B20 keep things very conservative, they are finicky.
what does that mean?
there is nothing wrong with the emanage and if your getting a deal then you should deff get it i would get it over uberdata no burning chips over and over again also you get real time communication which means you can tune as you drive. it also has data logging</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont worry with what Beer says, hes a devout Boosted-B20 haterr.
Also Uberdata will have Realtime soon. With the B20 keep things very conservative, they are finicky.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is nothing wrong with the emanage and if your getting a deal then you should deff get it i would get it over uberdata no burning chips over and over again also you get real time communication which means you can tune as you drive. it also has data logging</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your ignorant if you would choose emanage over uberdata. What about Hondata? Would you rather have emanage over that also? Emanage is a piggyback that manipulates your map sensor voltage, it just tricks your car. Uberdata/Hondata (chipped ECU) actually tells your car what to do, you can also use a romlutaor with uberdata/hondata. Burning chips isn't that big of a deal anyways and uberdata/hondata does have datalogging. The only good reason to choose emanage would be if you couldn't convert to obd1.
Your ignorant if you would choose emanage over uberdata. What about Hondata? Would you rather have emanage over that also? Emanage is a piggyback that manipulates your map sensor voltage, it just tricks your car. Uberdata/Hondata (chipped ECU) actually tells your car what to do, you can also use a romlutaor with uberdata/hondata. Burning chips isn't that big of a deal anyways and uberdata/hondata does have datalogging. The only good reason to choose emanage would be if you couldn't convert to obd1.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Your ignorant if you would choose emanage over uberdata. What about Hondata? Would you rather have emanage over that also? Emanage is a piggyback that manipulates your map sensor voltage, it just tricks your car. Uberdata/Hondata (chipped ECU) actually tells your car what to do, you can also use a romlutaor with uberdata/hondata. Burning chips isn't that big of a deal anyways and uberdata/hondata does have datalogging. The only good reason to choose emanage would be if you couldn't convert to obd1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Even if they couldnt convert to obd1 there are obd0 tuning progs like uberdata.
Not like switiching to obd1 is a big deal either.
Your ignorant if you would choose emanage over uberdata. What about Hondata? Would you rather have emanage over that also? Emanage is a piggyback that manipulates your map sensor voltage, it just tricks your car. Uberdata/Hondata (chipped ECU) actually tells your car what to do, you can also use a romlutaor with uberdata/hondata. Burning chips isn't that big of a deal anyways and uberdata/hondata does have datalogging. The only good reason to choose emanage would be if you couldn't convert to obd1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Even if they couldnt convert to obd1 there are obd0 tuning progs like uberdata.
Not like switiching to obd1 is a big deal either.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The only good reason to choose emanage would be if you couldn't convert to obd1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was using the e manage on my 95 civic that is obd1 so i dont know what that is all about. if it came down to e manage vs hondata, hondata for sure but he doesnt have that option at hand right now his buddy has a e manage for cheap so that is why i recomend it. uberdata is not the only option here and im sure for his needs the e managae would do the trick
The only good reason to choose emanage would be if you couldn't convert to obd1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was using the e manage on my 95 civic that is obd1 so i dont know what that is all about. if it came down to e manage vs hondata, hondata for sure but he doesnt have that option at hand right now his buddy has a e manage for cheap so that is why i recomend it. uberdata is not the only option here and im sure for his needs the e managae would do the trick
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Thanks for the replys everyone. Obviously I would much rather run the hondata just because I've heard nothing but good about it. But as I said I have a very good deal on Emanage. If Hondata is THAT much better then I will wait, but if Emanage will do the job than I would like to jump on this deal.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtaaak y0 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not like switiching to obd1 is a big deal either.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well as far as I know you can't convert to obd1 with a 2001+ civic, so you have to use a piggyback, that's what I meant when I said that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was using the e manage on my 95 civic that is obd1 so i dont know what that is all about. if it came down to e manage vs hondata, hondata for sure but he doesnt have that option at hand right now his buddy has a e manage for cheap so that is why i recomend it. uberdata is not the only option here and im sure for his needs the e managae would do the trick</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.turboedit.org
You could give me emanage for free and I still wouldn't use it. I just don't see the point when there are better and cheaper options out there.
Well as far as I know you can't convert to obd1 with a 2001+ civic, so you have to use a piggyback, that's what I meant when I said that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was using the e manage on my 95 civic that is obd1 so i dont know what that is all about. if it came down to e manage vs hondata, hondata for sure but he doesnt have that option at hand right now his buddy has a e manage for cheap so that is why i recomend it. uberdata is not the only option here and im sure for his needs the e managae would do the trick</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.turboedit.org
You could give me emanage for free and I still wouldn't use it. I just don't see the point when there are better and cheaper options out there.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well as far as I know you can't convert to obd1 with a 2001+ civic, so you have to use a piggyback, that's what I meant when I said that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
beer *** why cant you convert 2001+ civics to obd 1????
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You could give me emanage for free and I still wouldn't use it. I just don't see the point when there are better and cheaper options out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think that the E-management is a great piggy back computer I think that it have some great options.The umbrella and the hondadata are piggy backs as well so what makes them so much better the e-management has options that are very beneficial to tunning a motor right.All and all I would rather get a EMS that was built by a company that actually builds turbo then a company that doesn't
beer *** why cant you convert 2001+ civics to obd 1????
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You could give me emanage for free and I still wouldn't use it. I just don't see the point when there are better and cheaper options out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think that the E-management is a great piggy back computer I think that it have some great options.The umbrella and the hondadata are piggy backs as well so what makes them so much better the e-management has options that are very beneficial to tunning a motor right.All and all I would rather get a EMS that was built by a company that actually builds turbo then a company that doesn't
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Re: (1Guamracer)
im running an emenage and I have no problems with it. it controlls and allows you to tune alot of features. I think it's very simple to use. But..... If they had a hondata or uberdata for my 02 civic. I would prefer to go that route. But I got mine w/harnesses for 250 so can't beat the price.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well as far as I know you can't convert to obd1 with a 2001+ civic, so you have to use a piggyback, that's what I meant when I said that.
http://www.turboedit.org
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Well the poster is OBD0, that is what I was talking about.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1Guamracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The umbrella and the hondadata are piggy backs as well so what makes them so much better the e-management has options that are very beneficial to tunning a motor right.All and all I would rather get a EMS that was built by a company that actually builds turbo then a company that doesn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uberdata and Hondata are not piggy backs. Greddy doesnt build turbo's either man, they use mitsubishi turbo's. Id rather go with a tuning system that allows complete control of timing and afr's then a piggy back.
Well as far as I know you can't convert to obd1 with a 2001+ civic, so you have to use a piggyback, that's what I meant when I said that.
http://www.turboedit.org
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Well the poster is OBD0, that is what I was talking about.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1Guamracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The umbrella and the hondadata are piggy backs as well so what makes them so much better the e-management has options that are very beneficial to tunning a motor right.All and all I would rather get a EMS that was built by a company that actually builds turbo then a company that doesn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uberdata and Hondata are not piggy backs. Greddy doesnt build turbo's either man, they use mitsubishi turbo's. Id rather go with a tuning system that allows complete control of timing and afr's then a piggy back.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1Guamracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">beer *** why cant you convert 2001+ civics to obd 1????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay maybe you can, but it just takes a lot more work than an ECU and a wiring harness? I really haven't looked into it that much. I was kind of refering to this thread... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=989760 Looks like you have to redo the fuel system as well? I am going to go to that 7thgen site and read into it further.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1Guamracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think that the E-management is a great piggy back computer I think that it have some great options.The umbrella and the hondadata are piggy backs as well so what makes them so much better the e-management has options that are very beneficial to tunning a motor right.All and all I would rather get a EMS that was built by a company that actually builds turbo then a company that doesn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hondata/Uberdata are not piggybacks. The fact that emanage "tricks" your car instead of actually telling it what to do is the reason I would go with something else for fuel management. Sure it will work, but like I said I would rather just use one of the cheaper and better options that are out there. From what I have read it is a pretty good piggyback, but it's still a piggyback. If you really don't have any other options, then I guess go for it.
Okay maybe you can, but it just takes a lot more work than an ECU and a wiring harness? I really haven't looked into it that much. I was kind of refering to this thread... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=989760 Looks like you have to redo the fuel system as well? I am going to go to that 7thgen site and read into it further.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1Guamracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think that the E-management is a great piggy back computer I think that it have some great options.The umbrella and the hondadata are piggy backs as well so what makes them so much better the e-management has options that are very beneficial to tunning a motor right.All and all I would rather get a EMS that was built by a company that actually builds turbo then a company that doesn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hondata/Uberdata are not piggybacks. The fact that emanage "tricks" your car instead of actually telling it what to do is the reason I would go with something else for fuel management. Sure it will work, but like I said I would rather just use one of the cheaper and better options that are out there. From what I have read it is a pretty good piggyback, but it's still a piggyback. If you really don't have any other options, then I guess go for it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay maybe you can, but it just takes a lot more work than an ECU and a wiring harness? I really haven't looked into it that much. I was kind of refering to this thread... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=989760 Looks like you have to redo the fuel system as well? I am going to go to that 7thgen site and read into it further..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hmmm okay I see
to much work not worth it I was just curious
Hmmm okay I see
to much work not worth it I was just curious
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Re: Tuning my B20 w/ Emanage (calgone47)
look e-manage is the way to go; though its not like full standalone; untuned, on my pg7 ecu i only ran mid 12's on trapping between 110-118 mph my only regret is that i would played with that kinda system before i tore it apart for my mild build 
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turboedit is what you need imo. All you will need is a chip burner and to chip your ecu..then your set. Also throw in some money for a wideband, but you should have that to properly tune e-manage as well.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, emanage is a piggyback/hack that tricks your ECU. I would get real fuel management if you can (chipped ECU or a stand alone). Oh and if it was my b20 I would tune the boost at 0psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've heard alot of people say negative things about piggybacks that 'trick' the ECU. I'm not fully understanding it...why is tricking the ECU a bad thing?
Uberdata is cheaper, but I looked through thier noob forum...and developed a headache after 10 minutes. Seems like you have to know computer language to be able to use uberdata. I really would'nt feel comfortable running something like that. Uberdata intimidates me
Yeah, emanage is a piggyback/hack that tricks your ECU. I would get real fuel management if you can (chipped ECU or a stand alone). Oh and if it was my b20 I would tune the boost at 0psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've heard alot of people say negative things about piggybacks that 'trick' the ECU. I'm not fully understanding it...why is tricking the ECU a bad thing?
Uberdata is cheaper, but I looked through thier noob forum...and developed a headache after 10 minutes. Seems like you have to know computer language to be able to use uberdata. I really would'nt feel comfortable running something like that. Uberdata intimidates me
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if u feel intimidated, just get somebody to chip it for u, then ask projekteg from http://www.homemadeturbo.com to walk u through the process (projekteg also does ecu chipping if you're interested). its really very simple once u learn some basic ideas. i was a little unsure about uberdata at first too, but realized it was costing $45 for all the options that hondata charges exactly $1320 for. once i soldered it in competently (took 2 tries lol), i've had no problems from it since. WAY WAY WAY better setup to use than emanage.
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