Well - after 6 months of gathering parts, 2 weeks of installation time, and some great tuning....I present, the D17 that could:



Here are some specs:

-Custom turbo kit (T3-60 trim)
-5 PSI of boost, 150 HP, 150 ft/lbs of torque
-11 PSI of boost, 221 HP, 207 ft/lbs of torque

All I can say is that Darren at Titan Motorsports did an awesome job tuning this thing.....

In fact, here he is, hard at work



And the results?


Pretty damn good for a stock motor.....

 

Sweet. What are you using for fuel managent? Also it doesn't look like those things rev very high.

 

whoa! titan is awesome! darren is going to be doing my tuning as well..and nice numbers...

side note, do you know if they do any installs or machine work? i need someone to build my bottom end..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sweet. What are you using for fuel managent? Also it doesn't look like those things rev very high. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, since no one has any fuel management out for the D17's - I'm using the Emanage, and split second ESC1. The emanage actually worked great, because the timing could be adjusted. The ESC1 worked awesome too, causes the ECU to think its in open loop at 1psi and up....

As far as the fuel system, I'm running a converted return fuel system with a walbro 255 HP pump, aeromotive FPR.....

Yeah, the engine redlines at 6500 RPMs - no big deal though. Eventually someone will come out with an aftermarket ECU, which will allow reving past that I'm sure.

Pretty damn sweet, is all I gotta say!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanojp1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whoa! titan is awesome! darren is going to be doing my tuning as well..and nice numbers...

side note, do you know if they do any installs or machine work? i need someone to build my bottom end..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, they know their sheit....Not sure if they do custom work or not - give 'em a call, if not I'm sure they could refer you to someone who can.

 

killer!!! More pics of the engine bay!

 

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Here you go!

 

Turbo D17! Sweet!

 

That AFR graph is a bit pinched and I can't read it well... looks like you go to 13:1 AFR after 5600 rpms. Hope I just need glasses.

Nice power figures, I like the D17, just not the chassis it is attached to FYI, for a *very* sleazy hack to up your revlimit, swap out the crystal in the ECU that sets processor speed for one a tiny bit faster. It's definitely not the best idea ever, but some of the Nissan boys have done it with success.

 

Lol.
Torque numbers are pretty good BTW.

 

Very nice!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That AFR graph is a bit pinched and I can't read it well... looks like you go to 13:1 AFR after 5600 rpms. Hope I just need glasses.

Nice power figures, I like the D17, just not the chassis it is attached to FYI, for a *very* sleazy hack to up your revlimit, swap out the crystal in the ECU that sets processor speed for one a tiny bit faster. It's definitely not the best idea ever, but some of the Nissan boys have done it with success.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure...I believe its actually around 10.9 or so (at least that's what the wideband read at WOT on the way home )

Yeah, the chassis really looks a little heavier than the previous gens - I can only hope Honda doesn't follow the same lines as Toyota did, and fatten all their cars up (camry?).

Nice hint about the crystal - I might have to buy an ECU to play around with if I get a chance!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol.
Torque numbers are pretty good BTW.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks - I can't wait to actually get to the track this week and try her out. 5 PSI feels great, can't wait to see what 10 PSI will do!

 

very nice torque..

 

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how much torque does it put out stock? and do you have any baseline charts for comparison?

nice work

 

im jealous as hell

im glad theres somebody out there representin the 2001+ civics, good job.

my car can only dream of that kind of power.

how much did your setup cost you? if you dont mind me asking.

 

if darin put out 11 lbs on ur stock d17 im wondering what hes going to be able to do with my built b18c1 and other supporting mods...wow...

 

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how much torque does it put out stock? and do you have any baseline charts for comparison?

nice work </TD></TR></TABLE>

Never dynoed it stock, as it pretty much sucked stock. The 01 civics supposedly put out around 100 to the wheels for HP and similar #'s for torque. So yeah, I'm able to squak the tires in 2nd now...Have to be careful not to blow the clutch for a while, as it will be another $500 to replace (clutch and fly wheel + labor).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02viclx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im jealous as hell

im glad theres somebody out there representin the 2001+ civics, good job.

my car can only dream of that kind of power.

how much did your setup cost you? if you dont mind me asking. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was dreaming about it for the last 6 months. Unfortunately, all this power wasn't cheap. To correctly turbo this beeyatch, cost close to (if not over) $6k....for all parts and labor. Everything is custom, which means more $$ than a kit.

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I'm sure if you have a nice setup he can work wonders!

 

Sweet torque numbers. I love to see builds like this - D17 even! As soon as aftermarket hits or you mess around with teh rev limit, you'll be able to crank some SERIOUS numbers. Already impressive - keep up the good work. Custom builds are always better in my opinion .

 

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damn $6k
thats as much as a K20a2 swap. i would prolly choose the d17 turbo over k20 though, just like you. there are very few boosted 7th gens out there. so why did you choose to go boost instead of a k series swap?

 

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damn $6k
thats as much as a K20a2 swap. i would prolly choose the d17 turbo over k20 though, just like you. there are very few boosted 7th gens out there. so why did you choose to go boost instead of a k series swap?</TD></TR></TABLE>

$6k because it is completely custom. Additionally, a K20 swap is going to cost at least $10k when all is said and done. There are many small "gotcha's" that always come up when doing either a turbo or swap, which is why it cost so much and took so long (for example, I wanted the downpipe flange surfaced so that it wouldn't leak - cost more money than using a gasket, but I'm 100% sure it won't leak when torqued).

Anyhow - update on things - clutch finally gave last night on 9 PSI...heh. Trying to get an ACT XTSS with streetlite flywheel to install this weekend....

Hopefully this will be the end to the money pit for a little while!

 

d17's have AEM EMS.

Is that DX ? D17a1?

Honda's new design is producing good torque.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d17's have AEM EMS.

Is that DX ? D17a1?

Honda's new design is producing good torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's a common fallicy with the EMS - its not out yet. AEM has no plans to presently finish it. They are having problems with the new multiplex bus system that honda uses in their newer cars.

The EMS is listed for sale on a lot of web sites, but none of them have it. If you read the AEM forums people keep asking when its going to be released, they just say "when its done."

 

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That's a common fallicy with the EMS - its not out yet. AEM has no plans to presently finish it. They are having problems with the new multiplex bus system that honda uses in their newer cars.

The EMS is listed for sale on a lot of web sites, but none of them have it. If you read the AEM forums people keep asking when its going to be released, they just say "when its done."</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know I'm on there, but still d17's will have EMS and isn't that a non-vtec D17?

 

Update - blew clutch on Tuesday at 9 PSI...Took it apart today, here is what it looked like:







I think the problem was with the flywheel - if you look at the picture, the surface where the clutch rode was actually about 1/8" lower than the outer lip.....not sure if its supposed to be like that or not....anyone?

New clutch should be here tomorrow (ACT XTSS and streetlite flywheel). Than its just me, and 500 miles of break-in before having more fun.

 

Sorry but $6000 for a custom setup is a complete rip off.

My buddy is making my setup right now... (custom manifold, dp, ic, ic piping, etc.) and I am at $1800 for everything so far (which really is everything).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mario BA4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry but $6000 for a custom setup is a complete rip off.

My buddy is making my setup right now... (custom manifold, dp, ic, ic piping, etc.) and I am at $1800 for everything so far (which really is everything).</TD></TR></TABLE>


Well - lets see - you can spend $1800. scrimp, and **** things over with your engine, or you can do things right the first time and git 'er done!

You don't realize that to make the 7th gen civic work with a turbo system takes a lot of work. I had to convert the fuel system to a return system from a returnless system (most shops would charge $700-800 alone for this), also had to install at least $500 worth of electroncis to control / fool the OBDII ECU, not to mention all of the damn custom welding and fabrication that went into the piping....


So yeah, you can go spend your $1800 on your "kit," than see how it turns out in the long run.....I'm damn happy with my results!