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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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aiight, one of my buddies just got a 03 civic and is looking for some bolt-on power. anyway he wants to keep it mainly stock, so far he has a Rsr exhaust, and is looking for an intake. in terms of midrange to highend power would a cold air intake, short ram intake, or eBay pipe with a velocity stack and K&N filter yield the most powa! thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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I run Comptech and havent tried a Velocity Stack
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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ttt. my only real problem is if a 3in intake with a Vstack would be actually make any gains over a cold air
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Default Re: short ram vs. cold air vs. Vstack (KINGSOL18)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KINGSOL18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ttt. my only real problem is if a 3in intake with a Vstack would be actually make any gains over a cold air</TD></TR></TABLE>

probably not. its still hot air being sucked it
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">probably not. its still hot air being sucked it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true if you check dynos people make an extra 3-4 horses to the wheels with a v stack
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaoss_11 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not true if you check dynos people make an extra 3-4 horses to the wheels with a v stack </TD></TR></TABLE>

cold air with a velocity stack FTW~!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcMONSTER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

cold air with a velocity stack FTW~!</TD></TR></TABLE> y not short ram? no chance of hydrolock, plus looks cooler, haha
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: short ram vs. cold air vs. Vstack (kaoss_11)

cold air with valocity stack sounds like it would suck alot of dust off the ground while driving

i would use a velocity stack with a short ram or only at the track with a CAI
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMdc2lsVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cold air with valocity stack sounds like it would suck alot of dust off the ground while driving

i would use a velocity stack with a short ram or only at the track with a CAI</TD></TR></TABLE> were gonna put a filter on it
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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btw the velocity stak were gonna get is the prototype racing one, not an ebay one, only the pipe is from ebay
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Default Re: short ram vs. cold air vs. Vstack (KINGSOL18)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KINGSOL18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw the velocity stak were gonna get is the prototype racing one, not an ebay one, only the pipe is from ebay</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you use the prototype stack use a kn rf1048 filter
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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i'm running a cheap-o ebay intake arm, alum 3 inch dia with a prototype racing v stack and k&n filter.....
its my favorite intake by far....my choice over comptech, oem with drop in, aem itr cai.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Default Re: short ram vs. cold air vs. Vstack (Casey)

if your going to run a velocity stack your better off getting a few section of piping and testing on a dyno. the length of the charge pipe will make a difference depending on your setup. i tested one on jeff evans dyno and made 7 whp and 14 tq over a comptech i.c.e box intake system. we tried it with just a short ram pipe no difference in power was made. added pipe extensions to make pipe length like 50in thats when the motor started making more power. jeff had tested that length on a previous car and it worked well for that setup. my setup wanted something a little shorter 32in to be exact. here are some pics.

50in. piping


32in piping


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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Default Re: short ram vs. cold air vs. Vstack (Casey)

this is to casey above my post have you dynoed the motor with that intake setup versus another configuration. i would think that setup would not be to efficient. if thats your air filter inside that black box next to your dist. i would think that could mess up the resonance in air flow not to mention the corrugated tubing used for the lower portion. that like using pinch bend versus mendrel on an exhaust system. the filter should be attached to the velocity stack. someone correct me i'm wrong. thats just how i see it.
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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Default Re: short ram vs. cold air vs. Vstack (itgsr98)

im sure it would obviously flow better with no filter, but no dynos. as far as track, the owner picked up 2-3mph in the 1/8 going from a short ram to this setup.
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Default Re: short ram vs. cold air vs. Vstack (Casey)

na what im saying is being that the filter is in the position where its(in the center of airflows path). i think that would cause more resonance. dips in a graph could be seen. filter should be on the v.stack. as far as i know there is now lose of power using an airfilter if mounted to v.stack. i have one of jeffs v.stacks and am going to set it up similar to a cold air with k&n filter. topend can be had with that setup you posted but mid range is where you might suffer.
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