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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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has anyone run the big a bore on a street car? just wondering I saw in the all motor forum that people had problems with head gaskets sealing? any info would help. btw mine is a darton sleeved 86mm gsr block.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Default Re: .::need info on 86mm gsr::. (kevino002)

i wouldnt for fi on anything over an 84.5mm bore. to liitle material left on the slleves, yes even if it s sleeved
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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there seems to be alot of materail left on the sleeve, darton garentees the sleeves will hold 30+ psi.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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We tried 85.5 on a friends B16. Didn't hold HG's worth crap, and it started to see blowby not long after we got it running, I think the cylinders became out of round. I would sell the block and start fresh, or have it resleeved.
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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Napoleon Dynamite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I would sell the block and start fresh, or have it resleeved.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree the biggest we run turbo motors are 84.5mm.

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 04:58 AM
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Thats not what I wanted to hear. lol
I think that I will try and see what happens, it I have problems then I will just start over.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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for more info
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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DO it and let us know how it works out.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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I will..
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Default Re: .::need info on 86mm gsr::. (kevino002)

When you do it, have the machine shop use a torque plate to do the hone. It will keep the cylidners more true. - A good guy on this board gave me that very helpful tip. There are a few guys in the all motor forum running 87mm bore on a B Series.. Just make very sure both surfaces are flat as possible.

B19 coupe also had luck with indian head gasket sealer. I am anxious to here out it goes.

My 86mm motor shoul dbe done tommorrow night.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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The block is at the machine shop as we speak should be done friday. I will let you all know how it goes.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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my block is bored out at 85.5mm with dart MID sleeves i'm currently in the break in period, rev limiter set at 5000rpm 5pds of boost i put about 3000k on the motor since it was built.... just waiting on some $$$ to go tune but, going to play it safe keeping the boost at 10pds when i tune..but i'm making plans to build another block tho. i just have a slight feeling that block is going to go PINNNGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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well I guess we will see, eveyone at the shop says that it will be fine that I am just worring about it to much.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Default Re: .::need info on 86mm gsr::. (kevino002)

I agree. I think a lot of people shy away from 86mm becasue they are told it is impossible.

I too was scared in the beginning because of what I heard. The only con is that you at your limit so if something does break it doesn't leave much room for correcting it. I would not be afraid to boost like on the 86 just as you would on a 85 or an 84. If it blows the gasket then dial back the boost.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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see thats what I wanted to hear, thanks for the support asubennett.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Best of luck to you. Rememebr that flat surfaces are your freind. take some material off the deck of the block if you have to.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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well I finally got the car on the street. I took it to the dyno and found out that I need to replace the coil and one of the spark plug wires was bad so I just got a MSD 6Al and some MSD plugs. I went back to the dyno about a week later and was only able make one pass, the injector on #4 cyle. was not working, so I make just under 300whp at 6-8psi with only 3 cylenders. I am going to replace the injectors this week and get it back on the dyno. I have put about 500 miles on it boosting 6-8psi before the injector went. will update soon.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Have been running the motor for about 6 months on 8-9psi and have had no problems with the HG, going to the dyno soon to tune for higher psi and more power, will keep you updated.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Default Re: .::need info on 86mm gsr::. (kevino002)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevino002 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> so I make just under 300whp at 6-8psi with only 3 cylenders.</TD></TR></TABLE>

who in CO is tuning it?

you should contact servion (he is on here) , he is the man iin CO for tuning hondas
tell him Kelly sent ya

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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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He is tunning my car... Has been since I switched from Hondata to Neptune.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevino002 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He is tunning my car... Has been since I switched from Hondata to Neptune.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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