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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Getting ready to finish my first EM2 build with Koni/GC and a set of 17"x8" Jlines (20SL2). Question is what size offset should I run? I would like more dish in the rear but not sure if there will be clearance issues. Open to all suggestions. Anyone have any expirience with this? these will be my first "non Rota wheels" =P so i dont want to drop over $2000 on wheels im not happy with. Thx guys.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 04:49 AM
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Have you cut the rear quarter panels and rolled the front fenders to increase tire clearance? Because, if not, you're looking at a +38 offset and about 2.5 degrees of negative camber all the way around at best for an 8" wide wheel with properly sized tires (225/50/17 will be the narrowest you can run on those wheels).
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 05:20 AM
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Matt i have followed most of the advice you have given on HT and i want to thank you for your help. i do plan on rolling my fenders and modifying the rear to slam the car as much as possible. i dont think i will go any farther than 2.5 degrees of camber.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMug3n
Matt i have followed most of the advice you have given on HT and i want to thank you for your help. i do plan on rolling my fenders and modifying the rear to slam the car as much as possible. i dont think i will go any farther than 2.5 degrees of camber.
Yeah, currently I'm sitting on 245/45/16's on 16x8 +35 wheels with 3.6 degrees of negative camber in the front and 1.8 in the rear. The rear quarter panels are cut, and the fronts are rolled with the fender liners removed. I still rub in the rear, but its only on harder impacts.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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I would realy like to maximize my lip. 2-3 inches if possible. having a high offset scares me a bit. Correct me if im mistaken...+38 offset would push my hub face outward around 1.5". this would give me a 2." lip on an 8" wheel?

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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMug3n
I would realy like to maximize my lip. 2-3 inches if possible. having a high offset scares me a bit. Correct me if im mistaken...+38 offset would push my hub face outward around 1.5". this would give me a 2." lip on an 8" wheel?
To be honest, the best way to increase how much visual lip there is, would be to get a wheel face that is designed for that effect. It's nearly impossible to estimate how much visual lip there will be, because each wheel design is different (case in point: R/C Stark wheel designs have huge visual lips, even with higher offset wheels).

High offset wheels shouldn't scare you at all, especially with how the suspension is laid out on the 7th gen. Civic chassis. You can get away with higher offsets, when compared to lower offsets.

If the face of the wheel is 100% flat and the material comprising the wheel hub was 0mm thick (not physically possible, but I'm using this as a statement), the visual lip of an 8" wide wheel with a +38 offset would be exactly 2.7". But remember, this does not take in to effect the concavity of the wheel face, the thickness of the wheel face, nor the overall shape design near the hub of the wheel face.

Effectively, it is impossible to tell just how much visual lip there will be without knowing the overall design specifications from the wheel manufacturer for that specific wheel. And I seem to recall them making more then one style of wheel face for different brake clearances, which would also come in to effect for the appearance of lip.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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Thx for the input Matt. The wheels I'm getting are flat and seem to have the deep dish style. Would I have issues running +15 or +20?
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMug3n
Thx for the input Matt. The wheels I'm getting are flat and seem to have the deep dish style. Would I have issues running +15 or +20?
Unless you plan on running stretched tires (something this forum does not permit discussion on due to its obvious safety issues), you could probably pull that off... but I wouldn't recommend it.
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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All my friends run stretched and I. Think it looks good but I loves the beef lol
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