Hey guys im kinda new to the Tig welding, and i want to know what your opinions are on these welders or if you guys know of other for the price range about.... thanks

http://www.toolking.com/produc...00425

the hobart tig welder

Product Description-Hobart Welders 500425

The TIGMATE is a complete AC/DC, TIG and Stick welding package. The TIGMATE offers superior performance 18 gauge to 3/16 in. (1.2 to 4.8 mm) steel and stainless steel; 14 gauge to 3/16 in. (1.8 to 4.8 mm) aluminum. For thicker metals, take advantage of the Stick mode using 3/32 and 1/8 in. (2.4 and 3.2 mm) electrodes.

Features-Hobart Welders 500425

AC output for superior aluminum welding, DC output for mild and stainless steel
Four-position polarity and range selector switch offers two AC current ranges, DC electrode (-) for TIG, and DC electrode (+) for Stick
Special arc starting circuitry eliminates high-frequency starts
Built-in arc assist stabilizer for AC TIG on aluminum
Built-in arc assist starter for DC TIG
Process switch automatically sets machine for TIG or Stick
Unique "flow-through" shielding gas TIG torch connection allows removal of torch without tools
Includes-Hobart Welders 500425

150 amp TIG torch with 12-1/2 ft (3.8 m) cord and flow-through quick-connect
25 ft. (7.6 m) TIG torch supplied with finger tip control models
Fingertip or foot-operated amperage control
12 ft. (3.7 m) work cable with clamp
Electrode holder and 15 ft (4.6 m) cable with quick-connect
Gas regulator, flowmeter and shielding gas hose
"How-To" DVD
Application-Hobart Welders 500425

Welding Aluminum, Copper, Brass, Titanium, Magnesium Alloy, Cast Iron, Stainless Steel

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http://cgi.ebay.com/Miller-Eco...sting

miller tig welder

* TIG (GTAW)
* Stick (SMAW)

Light Industrial Applications

* Hobbyist
* Home
* Farm and Ranch
* Light Fabrication

Cutting Capability

* Input Power
* Requires 1-Phase Power


Rated Output

* TIG: 150A at 15 VDC, at 20 % Duty Cycle
* Stick: 130A at 25 VDC, at 20 % Duty Cycle


Output Power Range

* TIG: 20 - 165 A (AC), 30 - 160 A (DC)
* Stick: 20 - 165 A (AC), 25 - 130 A (DC)


Net Weight

* 140 lb (64 kg)

* Power source with primary cord (plug provided on 230 volt model)
* DB1712RDI TIG torch with backcap, ceramic gas cup, 3/32 in (2.4 mm) collet and collet body, and 2% thoriated tungsten
* 12 ft (3.7 m) work cable and clamp
* 15 ft (4.6 m) Stick electrode holder
* 20 ft (6 m) RFCS-14 foot-operated remote control
* Gas regulator, flowmeter and 12-1/2 ft (3.8 m) shielding gas hose
* "How-To" DVD (in English and Spanish)
Features

Upgraded circuitry gives you finer TIG output adjustment with the remote foot or fingertip control. If you need more output while using the remote control, simply increase the setting of the front panel amperage control.

AC output for aluminum welding and DC output for mild/stainless steel.

Four-position polarity and range selector switch offers two AC current ranges, DC electrode (-) for TIG, and DC electrode (+) for Stick.

Built-in arc assist starter for DC TIG.

Built-in assist stabilizer efor AC TIG on aluminum.

Preset automatic postflow timer protects tungsten tip, workpiece and torch from contamination.

Automatic high-temperature shutdown.

Process switch automatically sets machine for TIG or Stick


thanks for looking

 

nobody has any input?

 

I believe this is the same welder I have.I don't remember the model number but it's a Tigmate 185.I've used it for exhaust (SS) and some light fab and repair.I haven't used it for aluminum at all.I have a larger miller with a water cooled torch at work for aluminum.The Hobarts are rebadged Millers.I'm not a pro, but I have been happy with it.

 

I'm looking at the Syncrowave 200, but it's $2K.
Millers typically have a higher duty cycle and better quality drive rollers and such than Hobarts. Miller is just the heavy duty version, like DeWalt is to Black & Decker.

 

hey thanks guys, im kinda leaning towards the miller, anyone else have any input?

 

just do the miller. Unless your doing ultra-thin sheet steel/aluminum, then don't worry about the pulse features. Ultra thin to me is 0.020-