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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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how hard would it be to put a 6 point rollcage in a DA integra? and what kinda welder would be best i have a mig/tig and also an arc welder. I SAW A TOPIC ON THIS IN H-T A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ANY HELP ON THIS TOPIC I APPRECIATED BECAUSE MY CAR IS GOING TO THE PAINT SHOP PRETTY SOON AND IF POSSIBLE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE I GET IT PAINTED THANX.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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No offense but if you are asking questions like that, you probably should not be building your own cage in a hurry anytime real soon...
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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IF YOU DIDN'T READ MY POST ILL TYPE IT AGAIN FOR YOU. I KNOW A PROFESSIONAL WELDER AND OWN MY OWN WELDERS. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS! AND IF ANYONE READING HAS TRIED IT, OR LOOKED INTO IT?
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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You're probably not going to get much help with that kind of attitude, especially in this forum. Are you planning on welding in a commercially available cage or are you planning on building a custom one? You should check the rule book of which ever sanctioning body you plan on racing with for further guidelines, but typically you are required to use either DOM or Chromoly Steel tubing. For DOM, you can either MIG or TIG, and for Chromoly you can only TIG. Consult rule books for your exact answer.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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thank you that is all i wanted to hear. i realize that was kind of a dck move but you can tell the guy didn't even read my post. i just don't like it when people try to rip on you through the puter for asking a legitimate question. what is this rulebook you speak of? And where do i find it. i just want to find out more on this topic to see how much work is involved. I wanted to weld in a 6 point rollcage permanantly and yes a custom one. i've seen cusco, autowork, kirk and they look good but i like the custom look better plus i want it to be permanent. Any ideas and help appreciated.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Here is a link to a topic that is still active on the installation of a purchased roll cage:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2009393

The "rule book" is going to be different depending on what form of racing you are planning on using your car for as well as what class it falls under. What are you planning on using your car for?
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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I did read your post, I just care about the lives of people - yourself and others. There is a lot that goes into building an effective roll cage and you won't find that information with a simple two lined question.
Good luck though...
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Building a cage and getting it right the first time is going to be fairly difficult. If you stick to it and take your time, probably 3-4 days for your first cage. Don't forget to cut holes in the floors and cover them with your plates, that way when everything is ready to be welded, you can remove the plates and drop the cage to the ground to weld the tops of the joints.

Remember that you'll need to design it to the rules of whatever sanctioning body you're racing in ... but if you're not going to race it, then build it however you want. Build in allowances for head clearance for the main halo, leg clearance for the verticals, shoulder clearance for the main supports, and hip clearance for the door bars.

Also, make sure the plates are thick enough and cover enough area. I've seen way too many homebrew cages with teeny plates that'll punch through the floor and offer zero protection in a rollover.
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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yeah, i just wanted it just cause. but i would like to use it for circuit . But i realize it will take alot of dedication as far as the rollcage concerned. I'll probably need like a 10 point cage or something. I was planning on using a thick gauge for the plates and the bar themselves. but i didn't want to go to 2" for the main hoop or the other piping because i read somewhere that 2" is for cars that weigh over 3,500 lbs. and I would also have quite a bit of time to do it if i took on the project. i'm not in a hurry to paint my vechicle especially to put in a cage.
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Yeah, as said before, if you're going to be going out on a track and racing, you'll HAVE to read the rulebooks for the classes you'll be competing in a building the cage to the guidelines.

These will include:
piping size
piping material
requisite mounting points (6, 8, etc)
shapes of the supports (i.e. rear bars must be straight)
acceptable welding techniques

My last bit of advice would be to take your time because if you mess up and don't follow the rulebook, you'll have to cut it out and start over. Definitely draw it out and do rough measurements first.
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