Anyone think this would be possible. Almost like how a go kart, motorcycle, or snow mobile is setup with a sprocket and then a chain connecting from the sprocket on the engine to a sprocket on the drive axle. Maybe someone could weld a sprocket to a honda axle figure out a gear ratio and put a sprocket on a custom single rear axle to power the rear wheels as well. I know companies manufacture different size and strenght chains that could probably handle the power. This seem like it would be the cheapest way to obtain an awd honda. Probably not a good daily driver thing though.

 

You should really take a bigger hit before you post next time.

 

It would be 4wd, not AWD. Transfer cases, at least GM transfer cases, ARE operated via chain and sprocket.

 

Dont try to make an AWD honda.
Waste of money.

 

Damn guys put the plasma torches away i was just throwing out an idea.

beepy do you know what gm cars use that chain driven transfer case? any links?

 

hahahahaha i thought about this idea when i was 11 years old.... dude think about it it will never work !! if you weld sprockets to the diveshafts, when the suspension moves, it will change the angle of the sprockets. it will be 4wd not awd; theres no difference between the front wheels and the back. plus the gm chain driven transfer cases, only use the chain to connect the power from the transmission to the transfer case , and that was a weak link, most people building offroad rigs try to stay away from that transfer case because they are too weak

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuangAlang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahahaha i thought about this idea when i was 11 years old.... dude think about it it will never work !! if you weld sprockets to the diveshafts, when the suspension moves, it will change the angle of the sprockets. it will be 4wd not awd; theres no difference between the front wheels and the back. plus the gm chain driven transfer cases, only use the chain to connect the power from the transmission to the transfer case , and that was a weak link, most people building offroad rigs try to stay away from that transfer case because they are too weak</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude, did you realize when you were 11 that if the gear is on the axle cup it would never move?

Idea isn't practical, amusing... but there are much better ways (custom work with transfer case and real transaxle stuff).

 

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Dude, did you realize when you were 11 that if the gear is on the axle cup it would never move?</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, better step it up to 2 chains then.

 

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Idea isn't practical, amusing... but there are much better ways (custom work with transfer case and real transaxle stuff).</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually i did realize that, but im just saying, if i thought of that i dea when i was that young and realized it wouldnt work, whats BxCrx91 doing thinking it would work. Yeah it is posible to do, anything is posible if you put enough time and money into it. the idea is just stupid not a bit practical. it'd be cheaper and better taking parts off a CRV to make it awd

 

Worst.
Idea.
Ever.

 

i have "heard" of one of the first civics was actually a chain driven rwd vehicle of some sort... i have no information past this...

 

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beepy do you know what gm cars use that chain driven transfer case? any links?
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No cars. We're talking GM trucks here. The engine connects to the tranny which connects to the transfer case via a short driveshaft. (I think it is called the half shaft?) The transfer case drives the rear differential from the same driveshaft and to the front differential via the chain and sprocket to another shaft.

AWD works differently. AWD just have a transmission that is both a RWD and FWD tranny, meaning it has an output shaft and two CV axle shafts. The CV axles do the regular duty, and the output shaft drives a rear differential via a driveshaft.

 

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AWD works differently. AWD just have a transmission that is both a RWD and FWD tranny, meaning it has an output shaft and two CV axle shafts. The CV axles do the regular duty, and the output shaft drives a rear differential via a driveshaft.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.

Awd = 4wd Period.

There's lows and high and part-time and full-times.

There's gear type and there chain type they all have transfer cases guy.

 

I have a 1989 BMW 325iX AWD and it uses a chain in the transfercase to power the front driveshaft. The chain is about 5 inches wide though.

 

I thought I read about something where they had a small engine at each wheel. Probably some type of electric car setup. Can you imagine cutting up 4 bullet bikes swingarms, suspension and engines and running them all off one ignition signal. Not cheap or ideal but could be made to work.

 

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No.

Awd = 4wd Period.

There's lows and high and part-time and full-times.

There's gear type and there chain type they all have transfer cases guy.


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Here is an image of what I am talking about:



Obviously there has to be some sort of power transfer, but in this case it occurs inside the tranny. So to external viewers it is just a tranny with 2 CV joints and one output shaft. 4WD is not AWD, although AWD is 4WD at times. Kinda like, "a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square".

If you took a 4WD system, added LSD's to both differentials, and made the transfer case automatic, then it would be an AWD.

 

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that would be the monster electric evo concept that mitsu did it was supposed to race in cali this month but im not sure what race or when it was i just read about it in a mag

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/a...0.php

you could also just get a awd civic wagon from 89 i beilve im not 100% sure but i think it was 89

 

I have seen those before. I thought it was 4WD. '89 predates AWD by a while, I think.

 

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How do you figure? It has a viscous coupling center diff, an LSD out back and full time AWD. Anyways, the viscous coupling is before the rear drive output, so it is capable of sending 100% of the power to either end, a fairly advanced setup for 16 years ago.

WTF is this debate about AWD vs 4WD anyways? AWD = always engaged, 4WD = a button, switch, or lever to engage the front drive. Regardless of whether it is a transverse or longitudinal mounted engine, it doesn't change anything.

 

Speaking about powering a car via chain drive has anyone checked out http://www.dpcars.net and check out the dp1 racecar prototype being built, it will use chains to transfer power to the front and rear wheels from a motorcycle engine. Of course it would not be practical to try and convert a honda car to awd using a chain system but if you start from scratch it should work as long as the weight is low and the power isn't too high.

 

the engine in that is sick, a v8 using 2 'busa heads. should be a monster.

the chain drive thing in a honda could be done, maybe. but it would take a lot of time and money and still wouldn't be that great. not worth the effort to make a fwd car awd IMO. just buy something already awd.

 

anyone heard of the spocket? that was 4 wheel drive with engine powered front and 2 electric motors powering each rear.
but, if you want awd get a subaru, thats what i did. the old school honda's n600 '73 and earlier used motorcycle engines but still had regular transmissions not chain. the s600 was the same way.
i was actually going to build a belt driven awd gokart using snowmobile stuff.

 

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Honda S600. What the S2000 drew its inspiration from.

 

DP cars chain drive

 

arent OLD saabs chains driven as well?