i know theres a million ways to do things wrong, so im going to be asking wha the RIGHT way to do this is, so that joe-blow bodyshop wont screw me over


got a 240sx and i am doing widebody rear on it. its fiberglass overlay on the entire rear QTR and i am doing it specifically to cover a nice dent that a deer left.

whats the PROPER way to attach the fiberglass rear qtr, and what would beused to fill the space betweent he factory qtr and the fiberglas piece

please give me a step by step (i.e. 1.strip old paint off qtr) itll help alot when it comes time to pick a bodyshop to do this.

some questions as well
does it get riveted tot he fatory panel? bondo on, fiberglass? what material to fill that empty space with? would you use a custom panel to fillt he gap in the wheel well?
thanks for the help!

thanks!~

 

i would carefully rivet it onto the body at key points(i.e 4 corners) then use fiberglass and resin to fluch it all nice nice. i hardly use bondo when i put kits or whatever on cars, it can crack and even pop out, the nice thing about the resin is that when it dries with the fibergalss you can sand it with like 350-400 grit to smooth it out, while u get high off the fumes

 

ttt for a idiot

 

idiot?????????? dude i did this with my dad and he has beed doing custom bodywork for other 30 years......he has done 5 240's with widebodies and we did all five jsut like than and they all have lasted.......call me an idiot i dont really care ppl do things differntly

 

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relax little 06 buddy. he was bumping it to the top and calling himself an idiot.

 

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relax little 06 buddy. he was bumping it to the top and calling himself an idiot. </TD></TR></TABLE>yea go sit on some ice

 

your gonna need more than 4 rivets and some fiber filler to hold those things on. id suggest finding a good automotive "caulk" and using that in between the qtr and fiberglass. then you can rivet it and resin fill it.

 

Im working on a 240 at the shop right now with 60mm rears but the guy didnt cut out the old fender. There is now a huge lip and he wont be able to put on any thing wider than the stock fender would have allowed. I mentioned it to him and he said it will be fine and he doesnt have to cut it...

so anyway dont do that

 

oh my bad it was late and i just got done painting. lol

 

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all good
i am by far the idiot about bodywork, and i expected fiberglassing it on would be the way to do it, but whats that look like labor wise compared to doing the bondo? or do you usually fiberglass then bondo to fill it in??it looks as if this whole car is going to need to be stripped/painted so is there something they should do to the bodywork under it (like cut/flare/prep or spray with anything to help it holdup since its goingt o be under glass, and what about the space between the new fender and the old one? i saw someone spray in that expanding foam stuff, but that kit had busted off the car, i thinkt he foam expanded and busted it off!

 

Just FYI. Its pretty much always best to get the shape and fit of parts as close as possible and use as little bondo as possible.
For example:
You'll see body shops (and knowledgable amateurs )pop out a dent, put on a skim coat of filler (bondo or equivalent), sand it down, tap down the high spots, bring up the low spots, and then do another skim coat/sand repetition if need be. For those who think that's alot of work, read the instructions, they usually say don't build it up thicker than 1/8" or something (even that is pretty thick).

I've never done any fiberglass bonded to steel so I'm not sure about the metal prep, but don't be shy about calling a fiberglass or resin manufacturer, they are usually really happy to tell you, because then you're more likely to buy thier products!
I'd really appreciate it if you did, posted any information you got, and then posted some pics because I'm curious

 

yea, use as little bondo as possible... as for the fiberglass to steel....i tend to DA it with like 80 grit and clean it with some solevent cleaner and then start the fiberglass....you can actually sand the fiberglass down and cover it with an extremely!!!!!!!thin layer of bondo to get the low spots....dont fill it with that foam crap, you may want to use a sealer on the old fender before u put the fiberglass one on so it wont rust thru.....any more help u need jsut PM me