cksnah252

Whats up guys, I had my tranny rebuilt 2 years ago and this problem just arise. The car started making whining noises within every gear. Well 1-3 its like a grinding noise and whining on 4-5th gear. I know it cannot be bad synchros because I had it installed at Synchrotech (thanks Dave). Well lets just say i hope not because I spent a lot of money on this rebuild! Anyways i had the car on jack stands and left it on 5th gear. This is what happens


What is going on?! Please help!

Runnerdown

Synchros don't make noise, gear damage and bearing issues can. Some light rattling fully unloaded on jack stands can be normal, but that's too much. What's the fluid level like ? How much power? Street/DD USE?

cksnah252

Yeah its street/dd... Well when I did a tranny flush (3 wks ago), I got a full fur of metal shavings on my drain plug... Sigh, hopefully its just the bearings and not anything else.

Runnerdown

Well a bit of very fine metal on a magnet is bound to accumulate over time. A brand new trans will shed a decent amount of material for a while. It's imperative that it gets captured by a magnet, it's a big reduction in life of the bearings. When a trans is apart one of the number one things on my list is clean clean clean. The early trans had a double magnet and cost cutting reduced it to one after about 92-93ish. I add another when I can and having one on the drain plug helps as well. Time to break it down and see what happened.

holmesnmanny

I think it's more likely the tensioner bearing is bad than your tranny is making noise like that at idle.

raverx3m

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better slap that tranny and tell im to stop whining lol

Mista Bone

I'm glad Honda doesn't use tensioner bearing in the transmissions

OP, what fluid were you using and the mileage since Dave had it apart?

I'm guessing a burnt bearing or two, Either the outboard mainshaft bearing or the two outboard countershaft bearings.

Does the sound change with working the clutch? A bad clutch spring will make a racket like that.

holmesnmanny

Should go without saying i was referring to the timing belt tensioner bearing possibly being bad.

cksnah252

I been using honda mtf since dave rebuilt it for me.. How many miles? I would say around 15-20k. Also, no the sound does not change when working with the clutch, I tried to mess around with that as well.. Well if its just the bearings, Im pretty sure its cheaper than replacing the whole components in the tranny if thats the case, but I sure hope so!

Haha it would of been nice if Im able to do that without hurting my hands lol!

holmesnmanny

Its going to suck when you swap out the tranny if only to find out later its your tensioner bearing.

sportsman1539

I think it would be obvious to him which side of the motor its coming from.

Yea its probably a bearing issue. Probably the one on the top of the mainshaft

Runnerdown

LOL where do you come up with this stuff??

cksnah252

Really guy... Lol I think I know where the noise is coming from haha!

holmesnmanny

It takes a long time for an input shaft bearing to make the type of noise coming from that car.

Feel free to update this thread when you actually find the noise.

Im curious how many people in this thread besides me actually have had a tensioner bearing go bad.

holmesnmanny

Also when mines input shaft bearings started going bad and making noise, even after 30k miles it hadnt even made 1/5th of the noise that is protruding from that car and also its almost impossible to isolate tensioner bearing noise since its resonating into the block.

But hey what do i know, im only going from actual experience.

Runnerdown

I suggested to remove and open the trans for an inspection. On jack stands in gear it will always have significantly more sound because there is no load and backlash and pulsing movement acting from the wheels, axles etc.

The one thing that is not adding up to me is that this noise if it was trans related should go away within several seconds of pushing the clutch down as the transmission will no longer be spinning engine rpm.

As for the timing belt tensioner I feel this is highly unlikely as it would not create the original condition the OP described. Never saw one fail or make noise like that in my 15 years with Hondas, but nothing surprises me anymore either.

holmesnmanny

If its still making the noise with the clutch pedal down(clutch disengaged) then the issue is completely unrelated to the tranny itself as there will be nothing inside the tranny even moving at that point.

But hey you guys should know that since you're the experts.

Runnerdown

Ok, so you just repeated what I said. That adds nothing. The reason I stated that was to have the OP explain in more detail in case there was something we missed.

holmesnmanny

Dont be a ******* hypocrite. You had just laffed at me for having the audacity to suggest it was not coming from the tranny, rather it was coming from the tensioner bearing. So no,it was you doing an about face now when you realize you just had an open mouth insert foot moment.



Maybe next time instead of thinking ur **** dont stink and you try to diss someone that clearly is more intelligent than you you will think first so you dont wind up getting bitch slapped again.


ps LOL

Runnerdown

Somebody's feelings are hurt! Good luck with the diagnosis OP. Interested to hear what it turns out to be, transmission related or not!

cksnah252

Sheesh fellas calm down haha! But like I said, it couldn't be the tensioner because engine makes no noise with clutch pedal pushed in or in neutral while revving engine. I am going to be removing the tranny from the engine over the weekend and send it out to a local guy here. Ill keep you guys posted! Thanks fellas!

holmesnmanny

You specifically said before that the noise doesnt change when you mess with the clutch.

Its really important to give out accurate information in the future in order to get accurate advice. People can only rely on what you tell them.