Will a Exedy Organic hold this?
I'm just about finished with my motor build and now Im looking at clutches the exedy unit caught my eye mainly due to the price and performance but Im not sure it will hold my motor's output (anywhere from 200 to 230hp at the crank), what does everyone think?
i do belive the organic clutch will hold 250-275 with no problem.
and im sure there are other users pushing the power on them way beyond that........you should be good to go
and im sure there are other users pushing the power on them way beyond that........you should be good to go
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend of mine fried one at stock power levels in an h22a in less than 15k miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your friend cant drive for ****.
Your friend cant drive for ****.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsVtec92Hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are plenty of people with more HP and tq than your friend getting 30k plus out of their exedy organics....</TD></TR></TABLE>
you can get 100k out of any clutch if you drive like a little pansy, whats your point?
and apparently I can't drive for ****, so teach me how to not crack the sprung hub on the exedy disc into 3 peices while doing hard launches at the track on slicks?
you can get 100k out of any clutch if you drive like a little pansy, whats your point?
and apparently I can't drive for ****, so teach me how to not crack the sprung hub on the exedy disc into 3 peices while doing hard launches at the track on slicks?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and apparently I can't drive for ****, so teach me how to not crack the sprung hub on the exedy disc into 3 peices while doing hard launches at the track on slicks? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You just said it yourself.
Its not a ******* racing clutch, so stop driving on it like it is.
"I took my stock bottom end b20b to 11,000rpm today and it threw on a rod!!
to Honda motors!"
and apparently I can't drive for ****, so teach me how to not crack the sprung hub on the exedy disc into 3 peices while doing hard launches at the track on slicks? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You just said it yourself.
Its not a ******* racing clutch, so stop driving on it like it is.
"I took my stock bottom end b20b to 11,000rpm today and it threw on a rod!!
to Honda motors!"
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Its not a ******* racing clutch, so stop driving on it like it is.
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Exedy seems ot think it is, at least according to their product s upport material:
EXEDY Organic Clutch
EXEDY racing clutches with organic friction materials utilize only premium materials to provide maximum resistance to slippage and burst. EXEDY organic clutches can also handle modified engines due to the increased clamp loads. Drivability with EXEDY organic clutches is similar to that of stock clutches. Pedal efforts will be slightly higher due to the higher clamp loads. As with all EXEDY clutch discs, EXEDY organic clutches feature high capacity spring center dampers designed to reduce drive train shock and impact.
So unless you know better than Exedy about their own product I woul dahve to say you are wrong and an asshat as well.
Its not a ******* racing clutch, so stop driving on it like it is.
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Exedy seems ot think it is, at least according to their product s upport material:
EXEDY Organic Clutch
EXEDY racing clutches with organic friction materials utilize only premium materials to provide maximum resistance to slippage and burst. EXEDY organic clutches can also handle modified engines due to the increased clamp loads. Drivability with EXEDY organic clutches is similar to that of stock clutches. Pedal efforts will be slightly higher due to the higher clamp loads. As with all EXEDY clutch discs, EXEDY organic clutches feature high capacity spring center dampers designed to reduce drive train shock and impact.
So unless you know better than Exedy about their own product I woul dahve to say you are wrong and an asshat as well.
Exedy uses the "racing" tag for marketing. Anyone with 1/2 a brain cell knows a full faced organic clutch is not a "racing" clutch. What it is is:
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Drivability with EXEDY organic clutches is similar to that of stock clutches. Pedal efforts will be slightly higher due to the higher clamp loads. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Let me re-itterate for you.
DRIVEABILITY=SIMILAR TO STOCK CLUTCHES
PEDAL EFFORT=SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN STOCK
Doesnt sound like a racing clutch to me. While youre on the marketing kick, herez a bomb azz intake for you,.yo! It sez "RacinG" in tha title, So it must b A maD Perform3R!!!1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...38634
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Drivability with EXEDY organic clutches is similar to that of stock clutches. Pedal efforts will be slightly higher due to the higher clamp loads. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Let me re-itterate for you.
DRIVEABILITY=SIMILAR TO STOCK CLUTCHES
PEDAL EFFORT=SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN STOCK
Doesnt sound like a racing clutch to me. While youre on the marketing kick, herez a bomb azz intake for you,.yo! It sez "RacinG" in tha title, So it must b A maD Perform3R!!!1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...38634
Actually I use a full faced organic clutch for racing....and it has held up to 10k miles and 50+ passes at the drag strip.
I ahve also driven on 4 puck strip "only" clutches that held over 400 lb/ft of torque and had near stock pedal pressure. It seems to me you don't have much experience with multiple brands of clutches.
I ahve also driven on 4 puck strip "only" clutches that held over 400 lb/ft of torque and had near stock pedal pressure. It seems to me you don't have much experience with multiple brands of clutches.
so what was your point when you said ur friends can get xxxx number of miles out of their super duper exedy clutch, when ur not suppose to drive this clutch like a race clutch? i am sure they can get the same exact number of miles out of a 99 dollar autozone stock replacement clutch
so to sum it up, your opinion on this clutch is:
its a great clutch and holds good power and lasts a long time as long as you dont beat on it, race with it, or do any kind of hard driving whatsoever
right on moron
so to sum it up, your opinion on this clutch is:
its a great clutch and holds good power and lasts a long time as long as you dont beat on it, race with it, or do any kind of hard driving whatsoever
right on moron
*sigh*
Wonderful for you. Your full faced organic clutch has held up for over 10k miles and 50 drag strip passes. Ill take your word on that one. You must not be putting out extreme power levels for it to last that long, but here comes your response where you tell me you are pushing XXX hp and XXX tq and im just going to have to sit back and believe that as well.
Ive driven on quite a few different clutch setups, FYI, and anyone else who has wouldnt point to the "racing" tag in a companies product profile as justification to their trying to do hard laucnhes with slicks.
Wonderful for you. Your full faced organic clutch has held up for over 10k miles and 50 drag strip passes. Ill take your word on that one. You must not be putting out extreme power levels for it to last that long, but here comes your response where you tell me you are pushing XXX hp and XXX tq and im just going to have to sit back and believe that as well.
Ive driven on quite a few different clutch setups, FYI, and anyone else who has wouldnt point to the "racing" tag in a companies product profile as justification to their trying to do hard laucnhes with slicks.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i am sure they can get the same exact number of miles out of a 99 dollar autozone stock replacement clutch </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not if they did multiple hard laucnhes on slicks they wouldnt.
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its a great clutch and holds good power and lasts a long time as long as you dont beat on it, race with it, or do any kind of hard driving whatsoever </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope, my opinion is that its great clutch as long as you dont try to do multiple hard launches on slicks.
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right on moron
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Right back at ya.
Not if they did multiple hard laucnhes on slicks they wouldnt.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
its a great clutch and holds good power and lasts a long time as long as you dont beat on it, race with it, or do any kind of hard driving whatsoever </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope, my opinion is that its great clutch as long as you dont try to do multiple hard launches on slicks.
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right on moron

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Right back at ya.
i am putting down about 190 whp and 160 lb/ft of torque(approximately 225-230 at the crank), run 23 inch slicks and manage 1.7 60 fts over and over at full throttle 6200 rpm launches and daily drive the car when my daily driver is down.
I currently use the ACT XTSS setup, though I have used the exedy organic race clutch, centerforce stage 2, centerforce dual friction, CM stage 1, CC stage 5, CC Stage 2, ACT HDSS, ACT HDR6, ACY XTR6, as well as several different Kennedy and Sachs clutches as well.
Overall teh Centerforce and Exedy clutches have done the worst among all the clutches I ahve driven on.
I would call the Exedy Organic "race" clutch a nice upgrade from stock for a stock engine with a mild driver.
If a manufacturer markets and sells a product as a race part the buyer has to go based on that plus others experiences. We are not talking about a random seller on ebay, we are talking abotu the performance division of one of the largest clutch manufacturer int eh world, Daikin. Just the fact that it has an exedy name indicates that it is being designed marketed and sold as a performance part.
I currently use the ACT XTSS setup, though I have used the exedy organic race clutch, centerforce stage 2, centerforce dual friction, CM stage 1, CC stage 5, CC Stage 2, ACT HDSS, ACT HDR6, ACY XTR6, as well as several different Kennedy and Sachs clutches as well.
Overall teh Centerforce and Exedy clutches have done the worst among all the clutches I ahve driven on.
I would call the Exedy Organic "race" clutch a nice upgrade from stock for a stock engine with a mild driver.
If a manufacturer markets and sells a product as a race part the buyer has to go based on that plus others experiences. We are not talking about a random seller on ebay, we are talking abotu the performance division of one of the largest clutch manufacturer int eh world, Daikin. Just the fact that it has an exedy name indicates that it is being designed marketed and sold as a performance part.
Thank you for the intelligent response.
I agree with you that when a manufacturer markets a product as a certain type, it has to expect a certain level of abuse to be thrown at it, but we both know that manufacturers claims have to be taken with a grain of salt.
I agree with you on what this clutch is meant for. You seem to have had good luck with it lasting for you.
One thing to think about....Honda's can get away with running less extreme of a clutch setup because as well all know, while our HP may be high and our ET's low... Clutches REALLY hold TQ.not a dept. Most, if any, Honda engines excel in.
I agree with you that when a manufacturer markets a product as a certain type, it has to expect a certain level of abuse to be thrown at it, but we both know that manufacturers claims have to be taken with a grain of salt.
I agree with you on what this clutch is meant for. You seem to have had good luck with it lasting for you.
One thing to think about....Honda's can get away with running less extreme of a clutch setup because as well all know, while our HP may be high and our ET's low... Clutches REALLY hold TQ.not a dept. Most, if any, Honda engines excel in.
A lot will also depends on the car, a light weight car can use less clutch, but most of my driving experience is in Preludes and Accords. They go thorugh clutches a lto faster because of their heavier weight.
I run the ACT XTSS because it does hold a lot of power, rated at beyond 275 lb/ft from ACT, and I ahve multiple customers and friends that ran them in cars making 400+ whp and combo track/street driving. Pedal pressure is a lot mroe than msot, but it is what allows teh disc to handle the power, I expect to break teh hub eventually and at that point move on to a stronger setup.
Most americans who drive hondas in a sporting manner are interested in power in a straight line, which is where the Exedy clutch fails in the long run. The shock loads of a drag type launch dont do good things to stock pieces with slightly mroe pressure. I am pretty confident that if I placed an Exedy organic race setup next to a stock setup few people could tell them aaprt....
I run the ACT XTSS because it does hold a lot of power, rated at beyond 275 lb/ft from ACT, and I ahve multiple customers and friends that ran them in cars making 400+ whp and combo track/street driving. Pedal pressure is a lot mroe than msot, but it is what allows teh disc to handle the power, I expect to break teh hub eventually and at that point move on to a stronger setup.
Most americans who drive hondas in a sporting manner are interested in power in a straight line, which is where the Exedy clutch fails in the long run. The shock loads of a drag type launch dont do good things to stock pieces with slightly mroe pressure. I am pretty confident that if I placed an Exedy organic race setup next to a stock setup few people could tell them aaprt....


