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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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i put the msd external coil and cap on my car and it road for 2 days then died on me. so i took it all off and put the internal coil and stock cap back on. tried to start it up and nothing. then i checked the plugs by plugging one into one of the spark plug wires and touching a ground with it and it didn't spark...could it be the plug, the wire or is th dizzy just fucked up.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 07:34 AM
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did you try grounding all the wires or just one? you should also try grounding out the coil wire from the distributor. you might have a bad wire to the coil. you should also test the coil to see if it's still good. could also be the igniter.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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how do i test it all? and i tried grounding all the wires and all the plugs...some one said i had bad plugs, some said bad wires, so one said ignitor and someone said i just need a new dizzy...i dunno
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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anyone?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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here we go. I helped out another guy before.

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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4 spark plugs or 4 ignition wires don't all go bad at once. You might have a better chance of getting struck by lightning. A lot of people are so eager to help on here, "replace the wires", or "replace the plugs", or "you need a new dizzy"....DIAGNOSIS DIAGNOSIS, determine the problem, then fix. What happens is that you pay 75 bucks for new wires and plugs or 150 for a new dizzy and the car still doesn't run so then you not only wasted time but money as well. Just friendly advice.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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The igniter (ICM) is what fires the coil...whether it be an MSD coil or an OEM coil. It is probably what went bad.

You can try testing your coil with a multimeter and while it might give an accurate reading for the secondary, it may not for the primary because of how low in resistance it is. A meter also can't really tell you if the any of the windings are shorted internally. You'll still get a resistance reading that looks to be in the spec but it really may not be.

Like B16aSir2 said, DIAGNOSIS - way too much shotgun style repairing going on around here. But I guess if you don't have the tools to measure things...it's your only option.

Don't buy 3rd party ignition products either. Just stick with OEM especially on the distributor sub-assembly, coil and ignitor.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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thanks for all the help. i'll try to get the ignitor tested
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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To get it tested, you really need a current probe and scope to look at the primary ramp. It'll also give you an indication of coil health too....for the most part. But using a multi-meter is going to be least accurate of all. So if the resistance readings come out to spec, don't auto-assume it's good and move on.

Google "ignition coil current ramp" for additional info.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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ok cool...thanks alot...
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