what cams would bring the best power for an all-motor ls/vtec w/b16a head? what would the redlines be? the car will be a daily driver so stg3's are no option. how much more power will individual throttle bodies give? i want to do a relatively cheap build. i've searched for ls/vtecs and they will bring about 190-210 whp depending on how crazy the build. give me your setup and hp #'s

 

You are not going to build a cheap frank motor.

My setup:
97 usdm b20b
10.5 JE's w/ Eagle rods
CTR N1 crank pulley
CM 9# f/w and Exedy clutch
89 b16 head and manifold
01 ITR cams, outer v springs
Portflow inner v springs, ti retainers
GSR injectors and B&M FPR @ 55 idle psi
DC 4-2-1 w/ 2.5" collector
Custom 2.5" side exit exhaust w/ turbo muffler
obd1 convert w/ Vision chipped p28
Also working on some DIY ITB's for it.

Hoping for 200whp.

 

mine

ls bottom
b16 head
86mm bore
eagle 95mm crank
high compression
built head
itbs
tranny with lsd
fuel management
cool custom header...


[Modified by hybridvteceg, 6:07 PM 3/12/2003]

 

bump also could you tell me how much you spent total....thanx


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I got a little over $6k in mine, but that includes a nitrous kit and tranny overhaul.

Oh yah, I have a 93 GSR tran w/o lsd too.

 

total..about a lot...


[Modified by hybridvteceg, 6:06 PM 3/12/2003]

 

Mine's not in yet....GRRR...but here goes:
b18a block 300
shotpeened LS rods 100
B16 pistons free!
balanced crank 100
CTR pulley 100
8# Fidanza FW 265
Action Clutch 315
B16 Y1 tranny (no lsd ) 450
JDM B16 head all stock for now 500
Completely balanced bottom end ??? too much i'm sure
Custom ECU prolly a PYR or Skunk2 program 15
This isn't including axles, starter, intermediate shaft, all bearings and gaskets and all that crap. I will say that I do have plenty of leftovers though. So I can't really complain about the money I have in it.

 

91 ls block - came with car
95 gsr head - 450
jdm 4-1 headers - 335
ls vtec kit - 100
gsr head studs - 120
crank and rod bearings - 100
ecu - 210
itr pistons - 285
and all the other little things like fuel rail, fpr........ IT ALL ADDS UP

 

mine
ls bottom
b16 head
86mm bore
eagle 95mm crank
QUOTE--high compression
built head
itbs
tranny with lsd
fuel management
cool custom header...QUOTE--

That's what I'm doing.How much HP and TQ are you expecting out of this BEAST?

 

do you know where to bet the oil line kits and oil feed and return kits for mitsu turbos

 

my b20vtec setup:
Benson sleeved 84.5mm
Arias 11.5:1
KG stage 3 P&P w/5angle valve job
SI stailess steel valves
Skunk2 intake manifold matchported to head
RC 440 injectors
Hondata S200
Toda spec B cams
Toda cam gears
Toda dual valve springs
DC JDM 4-1
MSD 6al Sys
AEM bored 65mm Throttle Body
STR fuel rail with NOS fuel pressure regulator
ACT stage 3 w/HD
ACT 12.5lb flywheel
AEM CAI
Eagle Rods
Skunk2 Titanium retainer
other little stuff I just cant remember....
I have yet to dyno but soon....I am aiming to get 210whp this time.
Cost: All parts bought new except the block....and not including labor...around 7K

[Modified by Tailpipe Observer, 8:31 PM 3/13/2003]


[Modified by Tailpipe Observer, 8:33 PM 3/13/2003]

 

B18A=Free
Eagle forged rods=300
SRP 81mm-11.5:1 forged pistons=325
all new OEM Honda bearings=100
" " " " seals=50
" " " " water pump=85
" " " " ITR oil pump=100
" " " " timing belt=45
" " " " head gasket=50
" " " " GSR/ITR head bolts=100
Blockguard=100
VTEC oil line & fittings=35
B16A head=400
Topspeed perf. p&p=600
ITR valves=200
ITR intake outer springs=80
Portflow inner springs=80
Ferrea Ti. retainers=125?
Skunk2 stg.1 cams=625
ITR IM=280
ITR TB=350
B&M FPR=50
Civic Si(B16A) tranny=400
ITR LSD=400
ITR clutch disk=90
ITR P.P.=150
.....am I forgetting anything?


[Modified by GM2000ITR, 12:59 PM 3/13/2003]

 

b18b sleeved to 84.5 with rs sleeves shipping out tommorow!!!!
ctr head plus more polishing
skunk2 valvetrain and cam gears
skunk 2 stage 2 cams (still locating some CHEAP)
12-1 CR Arias Pistons
Eagle Rods
JDM type r header
dc catback
skunk 2 manifold
ericks racing throttle body
ericks racing fpr
jun programed ecu and vafc
clutch specialties 6 puck unsprung and type r pressure plate
aasco 9lb flywheel

i think thats about it
hopefully shooting for about a month to be hitting the streets


[Modified by warwagon, 5:05 AM 3/14/2003]

 

b18b
usdm type r pistons
gsr head
skunk2 cams, manifold
2000 si tranny
192whp

 

i made around 203-206 with a 1.8 ls-vtec but it was on the crazier the trick is compression and a good head...

 

IN THE WORKS.....

b18b block
SRP type r pistons
probe rods
b16 head
gsr cams
LS tranny with type r 440 final drive
nuformz block gaurd
JDM ITR intake manifold
Hondata intake gasket
type r head bolts

does anyone have a similar setup if so please post your numbers. Most of you have nice aftermarket cams and headwork. Need some number from a low buck ls/vtec


[Modified by Hatch-N-si, 7:43 AM 3/15/2003]

 

+ b20b $700 - got it a coupple years ago when they where cheep.
+ twm throttle bodies $1400 -
+ skunk stage 3 cams $600
+ crower springs/retainers $300
-------------------------------------------
= really fast daily driver!


[Modified by evilxkid, 11:12 AM 3/15/2003]

 

Hybridvteceg: What kind of power is that monster putting down?

I am selling an LS/VTEC longblock that put down 175/126 with USDM ITR pistons. It now has CTR pistons.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=437486



[Modified by b19coupe, 7:10 AM 3/15/2003]

 

b18b block
golden eagle sleeved, bored 84mm
je 9:1 pistons
eagle rods
ge conversion kit
arp headbolts
skunk 2 chipped p28
killer bee 16 head
killer bee si tranny w/ quaife
jg edlebrock intake
hondata (soon)

 

If you're gonna run more than ctr cams you're gonna need to do some valvetrain work. Ctr's are good for about 170-180 depending on other parts and the tuning, but if you want to hit 200 you're gonna have to go skunk2 or jun in stg/type 2 along with beefing up the valvetrain and adjustable cam gears.