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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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I have recently done an Ls/vtec swap in my 89 CRX HF. Everything is in and hooked up. But, when I go to start it, it just keeps turning over without starting.
I have checked the spark and the dizzy wiring, it all checks out. I am using a Chipped P28 ECu with a obd0-obd1 conversion harness. I have tried 2 different chips and another ECU from my friends running car both to no avail.

I know that I have fuel pressure to the rail. It seems as though the Injectors (which all have been checked) are not fireing. I have removed the resistor box and connected the 5 wires from it together and checked all grounds. I don't know what else to check, I am asking for any shot in the dark possibilty that could cause this.

thanks in advance for any help.

-Matt

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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bump for my poor non running CRX
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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*hello* .......anyone?


I Feel so alone.


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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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did you check your timing?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Is your fuel pump turning on everytime? If it is not turning on everytime and only sometimes then you have a ground loose. Make sure that all your grounds are connected and tight. Check the one on the thermostat housing b/c that is one that a lot of people miss when doing a swap.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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punps comes one everytime. and I have checked all fuses. The thermo ground has been checked like 15 times. lol
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Your firing order is right isnt it?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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ya.

someone told me that even if my dizzy is giving spark it could still be the problem?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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are your plugs wet?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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that I have not checked. if they are that means fuel is getteing there but I guess also that they arent getting spark?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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ok I just went and checked them They were all slightly wet and two of them( the ones in the middle) looked almost brand new, while there other two looked as though they had been firing
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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make sure your firing order is correct. In one of the books it shows it wrong. the number one cyllinder is the lower left if looking from distributor side and then the firing order goes from there. Haynes has it has number one on the lower right. Check that out.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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I checked that out and it did seem that someone switched my #2 and #1 wires on the head. but after I put them back the only change was less back firing, still no start.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Make sure the timing marks are on on the gears. Any chance it could have bent valves. Or if head work was done make sure the valve adjustment is correct. If its too tight the valves will not close.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Garcia-Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure the timing marks are on on the gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean by this?


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Garcia-Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Any chance it could have bent valves. Or if head work was done make sure the valve adjustment is correct. If its too tight the valves will not close. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There was no head work done, but I did check the valves clearences and they were fine.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Crank pulley mark @ tdc, Cam gear marks lining up with valve cover and up marks up.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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oh ya, the timing is Dead on.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Do a compression test
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Any check engine lights? Bad map sensor?
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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well I dont know how to check the CEL on my car anymore with the Obd0-Obd1 conversion.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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The Beast is ALIVE!!! I relized that I was using an LZ dizzy, which apparently has a different firing order than a b-16 or any other v-tec dizzy ??? either way it runs now and Just in case anyone else has this problem.

Obd1 LS distributor Firing Order:

FROM THE DIZZY SIDE OF ENGINE.

[21] |4|3|2|1|
[34]
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