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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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Default Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible???

I have the following....
B16a2

(1998 Civic EX Coupe)

75shot ZEX nitrous....

(first time) drag strip:

E.T. 13.8
MPH 102
60' 2.21

all on CAI, swap, and ZEX 75shot..

i was wondering if it would be possible to build this motor for nitrous and 12 second timeslips? would i need to build the bottom end? would a 100shot do it?

sorry, i am still learning about nitrous!

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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (MikeMAN)

Sure it's possible.

You'll definitly need to build your botom end if you plan on boosting 100+ shot.

Since your block is going to be out, you may want to consider a 1.8 or 2.0 block. These will get you much more torque, and you can use the extra displacement. Your call though.

I'd also consider a wet or direct port nitrous kit. A dry shot is not the best when your talking about huge tuning and huge shots.

What I would do:
1.8 block with MILD N/A or nitrous build-up.
120 shot direct port nitrous.
Nice nitrous cams.
Slicks and some weight reduction.

12's here we come... Haha just me though.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (MikeMAN)

12s are possible with direct port, pistons and rods. If you plan on hitting 12s, i would definitally go direct port though.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:56 PM
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thx fellas!
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (fire7882)

yea direct port, and you dont *NEED* to build your block for a 100 shot if and ONLY IF you have a good fuel setup and have spent time on the dyno to make sure it wont lean out.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (MikeMAN)

remember though if you are planing to do nitrous you will need a bigger fuel pump that is one of peoples biggest mistakes nitrous spikes fuel pressure so you need more fuel to make it work especially with bigger shots .. good luck
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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so could I use my current DRY ZEX kit setup? how would i get a 100hp shot? what pins do i need? zex didn't have them listed on their site!

thanks again!,
mike

p.s. would a walbrogh in-tank 255lph and a VAFC to tune in more fuel be a good setup for 100shot? SAFELY?
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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ya that walbro pump should be fine>
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 04:18 AM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (MikeMAN)

Here is my 100 shot dp ZEX setup:
ZEX bottle > ZEX brain (w/ NX #28 fuel jet) > Extended 3AN (I think) Steel braided nitrous feed line > NOS distribution block > #3 hard brake line > four NOS single fogger nozzles (each w/ NOS #24 nitrous jet)

For fuel you will want to use either #28 or #26. Call ZEX and ask them what size jet to use to achieve a 100 shot. I think that they are runnin a 125 shot on their CRX.

The walbro 255 h/o will be fine. In fact, I dont think you can get much better unless you go with an all-out serious pump.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (Jeff C)

i think the nitrous supply line is actually -4an, unless u are talking the one from the brain to the jets.

thanks!,
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so I can run a 100 shot without blowing my engine with the Walbro??

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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 05:09 AM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (MikeMAN)

unless u are talking the one from the brain to the jets.
Thats what I meant, sorry.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 05:57 AM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (Jeff C)

do you have a pic of your setup?

thanks,
mike

p.s. does this mean i have to permanantely modify the head of me engine? or IM for Direct port?

thanks again,
mike
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (MikeMAN)

No, not of mine, but I can get some.
This is kinda what I followed, here, except this is for a wet setup and mine is dry. The difference is that I have single fogger nozzles instead of those Y looking ones.
Also, mine is underneath....sssssshhhhhhh!! Kind of a PIA to change out jet, but I dont plan on changing them everyday.

Its not modifying the head, but the IM. No it will not be permanent either; you could either plug the holes back up with a brass plug or have somebody that can weld aluminum to weld the holes up.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (Jeff C)

so are 12's possible u think with this? or just 12's on slicks/drag radials?

thanks again!,
mike
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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Default Re: Tuning B16a2 for NO2.....need some pointers...12's possible??? (MikeMAN)

If Mista Bone on here can hit 13.09 with a D16Z6 and 85 shot then I should be able to eat 12's for an appetizer, but I dont think that I can hit it on street tires because of traction problems. :shrugs: I dont know, maybe I can hit 12's on street tires with enough practice and the right conditions. I really dont know what to expect.
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