I did a search for Energy Suspension and there are tons of threads about their bushings. All of the threads are filled with mixed reviews and its hard to get an idea of the general feeling about them. So why not make one big post about them. Please post your expierences with Energy Suspension Bushings. This includes the shifter bushings, complete "master set" of suspension bushings and motor mounts. Post your do's, dont's, reviews, installation tips, warnings, etc.

Personally, I have used there shifter bushings which I loved, much more "snappiness" in the shifter and better overall feel. I also used their motor mounts, but only two of them so I cant really give a good review on them, my feelings would be different if I had gotten the whole set.

Anyway, here is the thread, go at it.

 

i've had the ES shifter bushings for almost 4 years.....no complaints.......work very well.........and i also have the ES front lower sway bar bushings........those to also work very well.

between ES and Prothane i dont think there is a big diffrence between the two........i mean there both made from polyurathane so whats the big deal.......

 

I've got the master kit for my 94 hatch... It made a big difference overall, and I was pretty impressed. I also have the mount inserts, they work well also. I have a friend that has some prothane bushings and the seem to be the same things. The only thing that I would say is that the shifter bushing needs more metal on the insert... I want a little stiffer feel for the shifter.

 

where do you offer these products ??
web link !?

 

ive got the shifter bushing and i love the crisp snaps in shifting. and i have the motor mounts as well, juss been to lazy to install. hehe

 

got master kit for 94 hatch plus motor mount inserts but in middle of big swap so havent felt them yet

 

waht would be the most vital suspension conponents instead of spendin all that money on the kit? anyway how much is the kit for the 5g hatch?

 

150 at most

 

ES LCA bushings and tophat (shock) bushings.
Ive had mine in for a year now and I love them, they are durable enough... but... I have noticed a bit of deformation on some of them so it is likely I will replace those few in the springtime.

I also installed ES engine mount inserts, they are great. The car vibrates a bit more but the roadfeel and shifter feedback is excellent.

I also have the tierod and balljoint seals/covers but I have not installed them because my car is a daily driver and I fear rapid wear to the joints since the ES boots do not have dustseal rings.

 

Im not very sure...but the "kit" isn't all that expensive...120-160? Some one with true prices please post.

http://www.energysuspension.com
www.energysuspension.com/hon1.html

 

Yeah someone please post some best price and place ot get them for the price, etc. Also I heard your stock motor mounts have to be in good cond. in order to use there inserts, is that true? So u can't use the inserts over some cracked/torn/or shot mounts?

 

ES kit is about 150 depending where you shop, i got it from inlinefour.com
did the work myself. i believe it is the most effective single modification i did. it does sqeack i bit while running over speedbumps and driveways. i reccomend it for everyone. the "master" kit does not come with the trailing arms bushings nor with the compensator and rear UCA bushings. prothane does have those bushings as an option, but rather expencive. it is imperative that whoever replacing the bushings get the trailing ar bushings as well.
spend the effort and time to do it yourself, not only will you save a grip of money (shops around here charge in the effect of 800 to install it), but you will know your suspension like the back of your hand after the install.
the install was pretty hard, get ready to stare at your LCA's for a bit as you convince old bushings out (those sleeves are a pain). other than that, the rest was pretty easy, even the trailing arms bushings

in summary, extremly recommended on both track and street cars. do the job yourself. buy a torch, vice grips and a BFH.
stan

 

I'm just planning to get the motor mount inserts and I heard many are just using the left and right mount inserts and said not to get the rear since it'll be to stiff or something. Any feedbacks on the inserts are appreciated. And how much do just the two piece motor mount inserts go for on a 96 teg?

 

i hated mine untill i put hammer in grease zerks from napa . you drill a 3/16 inch hole and place a similar sized socket over flange below zerk nipple. whack it lightly with hammer and you have regreasable bushings. on the two or three piece bushings dont worry about this but on the one piece parts if you want to grease the inside drill a1/16 inch hole through the center of the poly before putting them in.

 

owen the soyboy mentioned deformation, would anyone else have any input to add on longevity of polyurethane bushings? Is the life of these bushings much shorter than the OEM rubber?

Nice tip vtecmissle, that sounds like a good idea.

 

here u go guys on inlinefour they sell some ES bushings--->http://www.inlinefour.com/accessories2.html


here are the shifter bushings...only $9.72
http://www.inlinefour.com/ensusshifsta.html

good company to deal with.

 

http://www.suspension.com he will match any price you show him. Great company, talked for almost an hour with him the other day about suspension, auto X, etc.
ordered prothane motor mounts, es mounts, and shifter bushings from him!

 

 

inlinefour.com

I have the shifter bushings and the motor mount inserts...theyre both nice. i am pleased especially at the motor mount ones...reduce lots of hop.

 

All i know is the damn people don't make any kind of kit for the NSX.

 

I got the ES motor mount inserts and the master bushing kit for my 00 GSR. I have been replacing bushings as I go along.

Shifting bushings didnt seem to do much. I dont see how anyone could think they improve much aside for translating more vibration. There was no slop in my shifter before. My short shifter made most of the improvement.

My rear LCA bushings were... melted from my suspension install. Even when they were shot I didnt not feel that much difference. I did develope a clunking noise out of one after awhile. When I replaced them, yet again I didnt notice much of a difference. My suspension was already stiff.

Replaced the motor mounts. Did the front 2 myself. More vibration, wheel hop still present. Had a shop do the rear mount - even more vibration, wheel hop still present, shifts alot harder, harder to drive car smooth. Car still bucks at low rpm when modulating throttle between no throttle and a little throttle. I cant stand it - I think maybe its worse now. I thought the "bucking bronco" syndrome was directly related to engine flex. Now its even more aggressive as nothing flexes - hah. I dont mind the vibration at all but I dont think it really did much to improve performance.

Maybe bc my car is too new still to benefit from new bushings. All in all, I dont think bushings are a waste of money I just dont see them as a performance upgrade. I would only recommend replacing them on a as needed basis.


[Modified by Muckman, 1:52 PM 12/26/2002]

 

hy muckman what do u meaby it shifts harder? (motor munt inserts) and is the vibraton little or does it shake yer hea liek a ****? i have these sitting in my room, juss ondering if i should install or not. thanks

 

Shift harder meaning, its almost as if I have a stiffer clutch. When Im shifting gears and engaging the clutch (letting out the pedal) at the same speed I normally would in traffic, it engages more aggressively. Almost like when your shifting fast and your dumping the clutch between gears - but now it does that when you drive normally So now I just slip more.

No it doesnt vibrate terribly bad. I guess the only equivalent I can think of would be maybe an older pickup truck at idle (maybe less). The vibration is definitely tolerable.

I dont know about the rest of you with motor mounts, but mine definitely made my car harder to drive smooth.

 

Bump. Lets get some more info. Someone in the Integra forum was just given this link to answer his ?, so my plan worked out well.

 

I wish someone had some input about the durability and longevity of these things. In one persons post, I got the impression that they may need to be replaced over time, and sooner than rubber bushings would.