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what do you mean you grounded out the o2 sensor? is it even hooked up in to you exhaust system.

 

i grounded them out by cutting them and exposing the wire and grounding them to my firewall. Cuz right now its reading that it needs to pour more fuel in so its rich. so by grounding it, it should put it on the oposite side and run it lean. I am going to be putting the o2 sensors in but i wanted to see if it would make any difference.

 

dude that doesn't sound like to good of an idea, you need to get the o2 sensor hooked up and plumbed into you exhaust system so it can tell you ecu how much fuel it needs, but hey maybe that's just my opinion but my o2 sensor is my friend

 

im not driving it around at all. i just wanted to see if it would change it at all. If it did change then it went to the opposite side and ran the same cuz it had too much air. So today i bought 2 new o2 sensors from the 89-91 crx si. They should work. Im going to get it into a shop and see if it works with them in there. If it still runs like **** them im out of ideas.

 

I was also wondering if the strut tower bars are supost to not fit when the lsvtec is put in. Cuz the engine hight raised about 1/2 or so and the tower bar wasnt even close to fitting. Just wondering. Oh and if its supose to not fit then what is a good strut tower bar to get that has a higher bend on it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jakscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i grounded them out by cutting them and exposing the wire and grounding them to my firewall. Cuz right now its reading that it needs to pour more fuel in so its rich. so by grounding it, it should put it on the oposite side and run it lean. I am going to be putting the o2 sensors in but i wanted to see if it would make any difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard.

listen to what everyone here has been telling you to do: hook up your O2.
you dont know anything about how your engine control system works do you? without the O2 hooked up in the exhaust stream your ecu cannot adjust your af ratio correctly. the o2 sensors are pretty voltage sensitive so you probably fucked up your o2 sensor by doing this and your motor is going to be FUBAR'ed if it already isnt by running so rich for this long. you may have already washed the rings, so get ready for such problems as massive oil buring. have fun doing a rebuild soon.

 

wellll i did want help. just not help from an ***. i knew all that stuff. And i havent been driving it around, if you didnt read above. And a honda tech actually told me to ground out the o2 sensors to see if it would go lean. And im guessing your not a honda tech. So i would take his word for it over yours. But either way, my car is in the shop getting new o2 sensors put in it to see if it stops running like ****. Thanks for your help, but please, you dont need to be a jack ***.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jakscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wellll i did want help. just not help from an ***. i knew all that stuff. And i havent been driving it around, if you didnt read above. And a honda tech actually told me to ground out the o2 sensors to see if it would go lean. And im guessing your not a honda tech. So i would take his word for it over yours. But either way, my car is in the shop getting new o2 sensors put in it to see if it stops running like ****. Thanks for your help, but please, you dont need to be a jack ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you know what man, i was a dick. sorry.

but seriously doing this is not a good idea because running lean can cause serious detonation which can mess up your motor with the quickness. also depending on how you "grounded it out" (which IMO is not a good idea no matter who told you to do it )you can very easily have messed up the O2 sensor, or even your ecu. if your motor is obdII then you will have primary and secondary O2 sensors. the primary one is before the cat and is the one that your ecu will use to control/monitor your af ratio. the secondary is only there to make sure your cat is working, but it will still give you a code if not hooked up or if you are running a str8 pipe.

an obdII o2 sensor has 4 wires two for power and two for the signal return to the ecu. obd1 sensors i am not to sure about, i think they only only have a single wire.

if your are running a frankenstien engine you need to get it tuned correctly, using a chipped ecu and a program such as crome to adjust your vtec engauge point, ignition, and af maps with a wideband, because otherwise your motor will probably not run very good and engine damage may occur.

i hope this helpful to you. if you want more advice on ls/tech applications post in the all motor section there are guys in there that are very knowledgable.

your guess is not right i am not a honda tech, i am an engineer so you can take that for what it is worth.

 

actually im running obd0 and the o2 sensors are when the 4 go into 2. And grounding it out did lean it out but the furthest i drove it was to the shop. Havent gotten it back yet. But from how it ran when it was lean compared to how it ran when it was rich was the same thing. so im guessing its not the o2 sensors but i can hope. Oh and thanks for the info anything helps