cbabyby

a buddy of mine wants to buy a b18 and put in his ek, but he doesnt know whether to build a ls-vtec or buy a vtec motor, which is better????

ClikHonda

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good question! i want to know the same!

cbabyby

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slowteg550

Unless you find a good deal on a GSR swap, I'd go the LSvtec route. It all depends though, I mean do you have an ECU? trans? or do you need everything? I guess if I was starting from scratch, I'd probably find a p28, a b20 bottom end and a vtec head... all can be found on here at very reasonable prices. However if you're not mechanically inclined enough to install the lsvtec conversion kit and a new headgasket or just don't want to mess with it, the easy way out would be to source out a GSR swap/ecu.

50SaysHeEatsIt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowteg550 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you find a good deal on a GSR swap, I'd go the LSvtec route. It all depends though, I mean do you have an ECU? trans? or do you need everything? I guess if I was starting from scratch, I'd probably find a p28, a b20 bottom end and a vtec head... all can be found on here at very reasonable prices. However if you're not mechanically inclined enough to install the lsvtec conversion kit and a new headgasket or just don't want to mess with it, the easy way out would be to source out a GSR swap/ecu. </TD></TR></TABLE>
very good info
what is your buddy building this for ?( NA, Boost...) and what is his budget?

cbabyby

all motor

50SaysHeEatsIt

ok a nice b20 vtec set up(on a budget)
Golden Eagle ls/vtec kit
arp hardware
shot peened stock rods
fresh hone and new rings and rod bearings
B16 head
aftermarket dual valvesprings(or itr)
gsr or ITR cams
Itr intake mani
a good 4 to 1 header
and a ebay intake.

what trans will ur buddy be using? I hope all of this is in his budget and is some help. Good Luck

cbabyby

prbly a b16 with a limited slip

b18C1.eG

wat if your building an ls/vtec for boost? whats a good setup for decent amount of power.

slowteg550

If I was building an LSvtec for boost on a budget, I would do a b18a/b bottom end, and a b16 or b18c head, with eagle rods and good pistons (too many good companies to list, all at comparable prices). However if I wasn't on a budget, I'd build this (which is what I'm finishing up now):

2006 Build

1994 Integra RS
2400 lbs w/out driver

B18c1 Head
Type R Cams
Ferrea Stainless valves
Crower Titanium Retainers
Skunk 2 Springs
b18a1 block 85 mm darton sleeves
JE 9.1s
Eagle Rods
Stock LS Crank

GSR trans w/Quaife & PG Cradle
Skunk 2 Drag coilovers
Tokico Blues
Traction bars
Spec Stage 5 clutch & pp
Clutchmasters 8lb flywheel

GT35
Custom Top Mount
3" Dp/Exhaust
HKS SSQ
Tial 38 mm w/1 bar spring
PWR 750 HP Intercooler
2.5" Charge Piping
Skunk 2 IM
Edelbrock 68mm TB

MSD 7al 2
MSD Pro Power coil
MSD 3 step
Walbro 255
-8 feed, -6 return (stainless)
Aeromotive FPR
Aeromotove Filter

P28 - Neptuned!

b18C1.eG

how much psi would i be able to boost too? with the eagle rods and a good set of pistons?

slowteg550

Well you can't look at it in terms of amount of boost pressure, you have to look at it in power goals. Different sized turbos will produce different amounts of power at the same boost level (15 psi on a good t3t04e might yield 350 whp, where 15 psi on a gt35 could yield 450 whhp)...with an ls bottom end, aftermarket pistons/rods, stock sleeves... arp headbolts... stock head, stock cams... you can realistically shoot for 500 whp assuming you have a good tuner

b18C1.eG

i've also been reading this dude saying to build a reliable ls/vtec setup vtec pistons should be used, so i'm assuming the after market pistons would do?

slowteg550

no you don't want vtec pistons, you want aftermarket pistons for whatever block you are using, so the wristpin location is correct for the rods.

b18C1.eG

thanks you've been veryhelpful

Devo94ac

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowteg550 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no you don't want vtec pistons, you want aftermarket pistons for whatever block you are using, so the wristpin location is correct for the rods. </TD></TR></TABLE>

p30 rods will fit ls crank!

slowteg550

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Devo94ac &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

p30 rods will fit ls crank!</TD></TR></TABLE>

So you want to run stock rods on an lsvtec boost setup?

B18b-oosted

stock rods on a boosted lsvtec is a disaster waiting to happen.

slowteg550

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18b-oosted &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock rods on a boosted lsvtec is a disaster waiting to happen.

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yeah, no ****... stock rods on any boosted setup is a disaster waiting to happen