I'm thinking of lowering my Vigor, either 1.2"(eibach) or 1.75"(intrax) or 1.8"(sprint). Do I need a camber or allignment kit?

And which brand of springs are most reliable?

Thanks for any help/opinion.

 

I'd go with eibach, they are a more reputable company. With a 1.2" drop, you probably don't need a camber kit. You should get an alignment performed though.

Brad

 

Any changes to your suspension will require a realignment. With your toe set dead on 0 (zero) you shouldn't require a camber kit. Just rotate the tires on a regular basis and you should be fine.

 

You should not set your toe to zero. This is the wrong way of dealing with camber. Having a slight amount of toe helps stabilize your car at high speeds and when braking. Setting your toe to zero will make you car darty. Dont be a cheap a$$ and buy a good camber kit. It will pay for itself when your first set of tires lasts longer than 10k miles. And any change to your suspension geometry is going to change your camber. Progress, SPC, and Ingalls all make good camber kits.

 

You should specify toe "in" if your going to make suggestions for stability.

Darty? You can play with tire pressure if that's a problem.

 

it's not required to have a camber kit, but it's recommended. By myself..

 

Or you could just buy a camber kit and do it the right way. JMO but a camber kit is way cheaper than replacing tires all the time. Running low tire pressure to fix the dartiness of running zero toe is going to wear your tires out faster. I am not seeing why people are so hard up against just buying a camber kit. I guess if you want that JDM negative camber look yO, then whatever. Just my three cents but if you lower your car, your half a$$ing it unless you buy a camber kit.

 

There is more than one solution to his question, b00stn. When I speak of tire pressure I'm speaking of 2 or 3 psi from front to rear.

Get the camber kit, CC2. You win b00stn... bask in your glory.

What I have: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=345902

 

Uh whatever man.

 

No hard feelings.

 

honda factory can take up to a 1.75 drop

 

A camber kit is totally unnecessary in this application. Lowering a car is done to obtain two things: a lower center of gravity and negative camber. Negative camber is desired in the corners. By lowering 1.2"-1.8" you're only going to be ~1-2 deg. of negative camber, not nearly enough to even consider buying a camber kit. Camber kits are designed for extreme lowering, where a car is dropped more than 2" (which is pointless for practical uses). Some people do use camber kits for fine tuning their suspension, but this can be more easily obtained by use of coilovers and having your vehicle properly corner-weighted (not applicable in this case, as I see no reason for this kind of fine-tuning in your application).

Basically, after installing your springs, have an alignment performed. Don't worry about the camber, it's still going to be within facotry specs. Don't request anything special from the alignment shop, let them do their job and set your toe at 0. You're not going to gain anything by setting your toe in a bit, as you're not pushing your vehicle to the point to feel a real difference (unless you want to get into auto-x/road racing). Improper toe settings will increase tire wear much more than a couple degress of negative camber. And please don't say "The car feels good, I don't need an alignment" after installing the springs. Your toe will be significatnly out of spec after lowering your vehicle, and an alignment is very necessary.

 

Great, thanks for all your input and help.